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cmspooner · 03-20-2014, 03:36 PM

Well the dealership is in contact with Subaru of America and they seem to be leaning towards warranty. The pieces are from the right valve cover of the engine but they don't know how deep the damage goes. They will know more around noon tomorrow.

AdrianG · 03-20-2014, 03:52 PM

So did they tell you what happened? Timing chain go or something?

- AdrianG

cmspooner · 03-20-2014, 06:59 PM

Nothing more yet... They are waiting on SOA to do anything... Tomorrow around noon I'll get more info.

FrsDuke · 03-20-2014, 07:09 PM

You really should alter the title of this thread. Dead battery is not involved and is misleading. Meaning people may not be reading it because of the title. Your issue is certainly more interesting than I expected from the title

. Hope it works out.

Dipstik-sportech · 03-20-2014, 07:50 PM

Almost looks like the roller for the DI pump

The Frozen North

cmspooner · 03-20-2014, 09:13 PM

Good point.... Thread was started while waiting for my initial tow... Any suggestions on a new title?

FrsDuke · 03-20-2014, 09:20 PM

My car made blender marble noises then pissed oil.

6speed_Sam · 03-21-2014, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malt

For the record, the color of the oil is not a good indication of how used the oil is or if it needs to be changed. This is a pretty common misconception.

I do understand what you're saying(my brother's Jeep Cherokee oil gets dark quick after a change) but I don't see how it would be a 'misconception' with this car. Why would my car(or anybody else's) be different than his? How it's driven? The brand/type of oil? Mine has never gotten near that dark.

ecko04 · 03-21-2014, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6speed_Sam

I do understand what you're saying(my brother's Jeep Cherokee oil gets dark quick after a change) but I don't see how it would be a 'misconception' with this car. Why would my car(or anybody else's) be different than his? How it's driven? The brand/type of oil? Mine has never gotten near that dark.

What he's saying is it's a misconception in general that the color of used oil denotes its level of wear. Your oil not being as dark as his oil has nothing to do with anything.

Who's to say you use the same brand of oil and filter as him? Who's to say you have the same number of miles as he? Who's to say you live in the same weather conditions as he (Alabama and New Hampshire don't share the same weather conditions last I checked)?

The only thing oil color should be used for is if you paid someone and you want to verify that the work was actually done prior to driving off. Other than that, no used oil that was driven on for even half a cycle interval will drain the same color as it did when it was poured.

The only good way to determine the condition of used oil is a UOA.

cmspooner · 03-21-2014, 01:24 PM

Well they are not sure how I did the damage to my engine. They questioned my story today when I talked to them and I apparently put the camshafts/other parts through the side of my engine. They did say that I could get pictures of the damage next week.

FrsDuke · 03-21-2014, 01:42 PM

Well good news is that no reasonable person could pin valve train issues on your mods.

Unless your drain plug ran you low on oil.

mav1178 · 03-21-2014, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6speed_Sam

I do understand what you're saying(my brother's Jeep Cherokee oil gets dark quick after a change) but I don't see how it would be a 'misconception' with this car. Why would my car(or anybody else's) be different than his? How it's driven? The brand/type of oil? Mine has never gotten near that dark.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecko04

What he's saying is it's a misconception in general that the color of used oil denotes its level of wear. Your oil not being as dark as his oil has nothing to do with anything.

Exhibit A:

Left: Virgin ENEOS 0W-20
Right: Factory fill at 1600 miles.

-alex

wparsons · 03-21-2014, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178

Exhibit A:

Left: Virgin ENEOS 0W-20
Right: Factory fill at 1600 miles.

-alex

The point that someone was making was that oil at 100 miles will look very similar to oil at 1000+ miles, and neither will look like it did when it was poured in.

Oil with ANY use will be darker than virgin oil, that's why colour isn't a good indication of how much life is left.

ecko04 · 03-21-2014, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178

Exhibit A:

Left: Virgin ENEOS 0W-20

Right: Factory fill at 1600 miles.

-alex

What's the point you're attempting to make?

One is a used oil and the other isn't. Furthermore, they're both different brands of oil.

Oil color has nothing to do with amount of wear. Used oil will not be the same color as when it was poured.

03-20-2014, 07:09 PM	#32
FrsDuke Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2013 ultramarine frs Location: Tx Posts: 612 Thanks: 242 Thanked 337 Times in 203 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s)	You really should alter the title of this thread. Dead battery is not involved and is misleading. Meaning people may not be reading it because of the title. Your issue is certainly more interesting than I expected from the title . Hope it works out. __________________ I'm done helping those who won't help themselves. TL;DR: -Duke

03-20-2014, 07:50 PM	#33
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s)	Almost looks like the roller for the DI pump The Frozen North __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

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FrsDuke Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2013 ultramarine frs Location: Tx Posts: 612 Thanks: 242 Thanked 337 Times in 203 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s)	My car made blender marble noises then pissed oil. __________________ I'm done helping those who won't help themselves. TL;DR: -Duke

03-21-2014, 01:42 PM	#39
FrsDuke Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2013 ultramarine frs Location: Tx Posts: 612 Thanks: 242 Thanked 337 Times in 203 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s)	Well good news is that no reasonable person could pin valve train issues on your mods. Unless your drain plug ran you low on oil. __________________ I'm done helping those who won't help themselves. TL;DR: -Duke

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