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OjiGeorge · 03-21-2014, 01:33 AM

See page 15: http://www.aemelectronics.com/Images...%2030-4900.pdf

Instead of a wire from an external boost controller, it would be a wire from the Haltech unit. The wiring is very simple to do, you shouldn't run into any issues. It's the most harmonious setup available that I know of.

OjiGeorge · 03-21-2014, 01:38 AM

Your stand-alone becomes your ebc, that controls the solenoid. I feel this is a great advantage because the tuner can control everything from one place. I'm not a tuner though, so I'm not sure how professional tuners feel about an ecu controlled boost controller vs external ebc.

It is correct to say that your AEM gauge can directly cut the boost, but you will still need a tune to run the solenoid at the pressure you want. Still should be miles cheaper than the stand alone ebc, and probably safer as it is integrated directly with your maps, so there is less opportunity for user error on having an incorrect map matched with a high boost setting.

mswhong · 03-21-2014, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OjiGeorge

See page 15: http://www.aemelectronics.com/Images...%2030-4900.pdf

Instead of a wire from an external boost controller, it would be a wire from the Haltech unit. The wiring is very simple to do, you shouldn't run into any issues. It's the most harmonious setup available that I know of.

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Originally Posted by OjiGeorge

Your stand-alone becomes your ebc, that controls the solenoid. I feel this is a great advantage because the tuner can control everything from one place. I'm not a tuner though, so I'm not sure how professional tuners feel about an ecu controlled boost controller vs external ebc.

It is correct to say that your AEM gauge can directly cut the boost, but you will still need a tune to run the solenoid at the pressure you want. Still should be miles cheaper than the stand alone ebc, and probably safer as it is integrated directly with your maps, so there is less opportunity for user error on having an incorrect map matched with a high boost setting.

Thank you so much for your insight, you have just saved me a crapload of cash!

I will most likely go down your route with the boost solenoid

King Tut · 03-21-2014, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OjiGeorge

Just noticed that you won't be using EcuTek.. not sure about the Halteck's abilities for controlling a boost solenoid.. but for the price I'd assume it can? If EBC's are illegal in Aus, this is also a much more stealth way to have ebc without an external controller.

That is a big assumption since he didn't mention what Haltech he is using. I would recommend he gets with whoever will be tuning his Haltech and ask them how they would prefer to control boost. Some tuners prefer manual boost controllers (MBC), some prefer electronic boost controllers (EBC), and some prefer ECU controlled electronic boost control solenoids (EBCS). Remember those acronyms people so that when someone asks for an EBC you aren't recommending EBCSs to him.

mswhong · 03-21-2014, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

That is a big assumption since he didn't mention what Haltech he is using. I would recommend he gets with whoever will be tuning his Haltech and ask them how they would prefer to control boost. Some tuners prefer manual boost controllers (MBC), some prefer electronic boost controllers (EBC), and some prefer ECU controlled electronic boost control solenoids (EBCS). Remember those acronyms people so that when someone asks for an EBC you aren't recommending EBCSs to him.

I'll be using the platinum sport 1000

King Tut · 03-21-2014, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mswhong

I'll be using the platinum sport 1000

Looks like you are good to go with an EBCS then:

http://www.haltech.com/product/plati...um-sport-1000/

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Open or closed loop boost control ( Road speed, RPM or gear based mapping)

D K · 03-21-2014, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mswhong

I'll be using the platinum sport 1000

Giving up the GDI?

mswhong · 03-21-2014, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by D K

Giving up the GDI?

Nono, will be using BRZedit or something to control the direct injectors - car runs like dog shite without them!

xwd · 03-21-2014, 10:36 PM

I'm debating using my trusty old Blitz DSBC-R I've had for years or going with the Ecutek control. The benefits to the EBC is being able to switch or change boost without changing the map, shutting the car off, etc. The Blitz was always able to build boost faster and hold boost steadier than the solenoid I had on my WRX because it has two solenoids.

You can't do some trick stuff like limit boost by gear, RPM, etc. though with the simple EBC route though like you can with the ECU.

03-21-2014, 01:33 AM	#15
OjiGeorge Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: White 2013 FRS Location: Langley, BC Posts: 450 Thanks: 441 Thanked 146 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	See page 15: http://www.aemelectronics.com/Images...%2030-4900.pdf Instead of a wire from an external boost controller, it would be a wire from the Haltech unit. The wiring is very simple to do, you shouldn't run into any issues. It's the most harmonious setup available that I know of.

03-21-2014, 01:38 AM	#16
OjiGeorge Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: White 2013 FRS Location: Langley, BC Posts: 450 Thanks: 441 Thanked 146 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Your stand-alone becomes your ebc, that controls the solenoid. I feel this is a great advantage because the tuner can control everything from one place. I'm not a tuner though, so I'm not sure how professional tuners feel about an ecu controlled boost controller vs external ebc. It is correct to say that your AEM gauge can directly cut the boost, but you will still need a tune to run the solenoid at the pressure you want. Still should be miles cheaper than the stand alone ebc, and probably safer as it is integrated directly with your maps, so there is less opportunity for user error on having an incorrect map matched with a high boost setting.

03-21-2014, 10:36 PM	#23
xwd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 DGM Subaru BRZ (Subie #9) Location: ATL, US Posts: 2,667 Thanks: 123 Thanked 861 Times in 552 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm debating using my trusty old Blitz DSBC-R I've had for years or going with the Ecutek control. The benefits to the EBC is being able to switch or change boost without changing the map, shutting the car off, etc. The Blitz was always able to build boost faster and hold boost steadier than the solenoid I had on my WRX because it has two solenoids. You can't do some trick stuff like limit boost by gear, RPM, etc. though with the simple EBC route though like you can with the ECU.

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