Do you think this car is going to have some problems?

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by bambbrose

Outside of the engine, the other major components are tried and true.

Transmission is the S2000 unit with modern updates, should be bulletproof for most use.

Rear end is NA MK4 Supra/ IS with the standard IS LSD (I had that same LSD in my Supra and love it).

Drivetrain should be set, so long as the motor works.

I think the biggest risk is the D4S. People may get intermittent misfire, fouled injectors, etc if the tuning isn't ideal.

Good point but I think the integration will the key factor even though these parts have been proven in previous cars. I'm not saying this is a going to be a "09 Camaro" but I do believe the issues found will be minor and be re-engineered.

[cyde01]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

First car is always a scary... tbh, I'm not worrying too much about it. Base engine (FB20), I haven't heard much problem (so far) so hopefully FA20 will run strong too

is the base engine really the fb? i mean the borexstroke dimensions are so different, what do the fb and fa share?

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by bambbrose

Outside of the engine, the other major components are tried and true.

Transmission is the S2000 unit with modern updates, should be bulletproof for most use.

Rear end is NA MK4 Supra/ IS with the standard IS LSD (I had that same LSD in my Supra and love it).

Drivetrain should be set, so long as the motor works.

I think the biggest risk is the D4S. People may get intermittent misfire, fouled injectors, etc if the tuning isn't ideal.

k cool so we blame Toyota I keed

Well, I'm pretty confident the most issues it will have will not be mechanically but exterior/interior wise.. Cheap paints, things falling off, things not fitting right/gaps, etc.

But I'm going for the 2nd/3rd year-in anyways

[Rabble]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

didn't think about that, thanks. I guess i should look into some 3 ring binders as well. Maybe i'll get those thick ones with with a locking mechanism for extra security.

Woah woah woah now, lets not get crazy adding all this extra paper weight to the car. A 3-ring binder is already pushing it way past what I'd consider acceptable additional weight.

[taosracer]

My concern lies in the engine lubrication system, and if the pan and pick-up will be sufficient for sustained lateral g-loads. At a glance the pan looks very shallow.

I will explore these possible weakness with some immediate track days upon delivery. I'm thinking the first mod to tackle will be a mechanical oil pressure, and temp gauges, as warranties can go out the window with track activity. The EDR might be able to confirm a dealership service department's suspicion of abuse.

That being said, I predicted TGB problems with the new Impreza engine, which so far is wrong.

[zootramp]

I have a 2001 IS300 (First year) that stills runs fantastic after 11 years and my wife also drove her 1998 Toyota Sienna (First year) for 11 years without any issues. We also had a 1989 Corolla out of the first year in the Cambridge Ontario plant and it was solid for the nine years we owned it.

None of these cars had any first year bugs.

I agree that the first year has a risk of unforeseen bugs but a commitment to quality engineering, solid parts and quality control in manufacturing seems to have helped with the Toyota's listed above.

Subaru also has a good reputation for quality and I believe that Toyota will make sure that their reputation is maintained with close oversight of the Subaru engineering and manufacturing process.

I guess we will find out this summer.

[S2kphile]

I expect transmission problems first year as most people will try to dump clutches to do burnouts, drag races, drifting, etc.

[switchlanez]

All the cars I've had have had transmission revisions after their first year or few: Gen7 Celica GT-S, G35, MR2 Spyder (IIRC), and MkII MR2.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

All the cars I've had have had transmission revisions after their first year or few: Gen7 Celica GT-S, G35, MR2 Spyder (IIRC), and MkII MR2.

Gear ratio revision doesn't sound implausible.

[Lowellrenzo]

Originally Posted by Huss

for the first year of the production problems?

discuss!

I got a feeling it'll be over heated like crazy

[_hollywood]

Excessive rear tire wear and rear bumpers being smashed by concrete barrier walls.....hmmm



Maybe e brake cables breaking? Haha

[dsgerbc]

I foresee interior issues due to excessive drooling.

[Nafe]

In all seriousness, there is no need for there to be issues. Te car has had alot of research, development and testing put into it. I don’t agree that there are always issues on new models. My 10years experience in the auto industry tells me that. I have had experience with mostly Mazda, but also Subaru, Peugeot and Mitsubishi. Peugeot have problems with ALL models, not just new ones, the Japanese don’t have as many.
There may be some minor things I guess, but any new car gets the odd warranty repair done, whether it’s a new model or not.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by cyde01

is the base engine really the fb? i mean the borexstroke dimensions are so different, what do the fb and fa share?

Hm... I'm not fully sure til we have to full detail diagram from FA20... But iirc they did say FA20 was model from FB20, so they took FB20 and Toyota/Subaru mod it like crazy