Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[fredfromnh]

I'm wondering if anyone on the planet has done any cylinder head development on this car other than trd/ griffon?

[Thatruth2001]

Originally Posted by fenton

Awesome thanks! Did you get a retune?

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Yes to address the cam angles for the header in NA mode.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I would need to dyno a completely stock car in order to get a stock header+ESC dyno results. Even Sojhinn's car had a cat-less front pipe. But even so, the OFH+ESC dyno had a better power curve. Especially up top. I expect the delta to be even great when compared to a vehicle with a completely stock exhaust. But expectations are just expectations so I won't know for sure until I get to a dyno an otherwise stock car with the ESC

I don't think I'm going to be reinstalling the stock header in our car in the foreseeable future.

Although I agree with URMYSON, I also understand your reasoning and positioning as well. With that said I guess with the OFH being as affordable as it is It cant hurt to get the combo. Thanks again for being in my opinion the best vendor for our car and for continuing to make great products and offer even better customer service!

[Thatruth2001]

Originally Posted by raven1231

Hey just wondering everything else aside do you think the nameless headers were worth it over say the ofh? Not trying to start an argument just wanted to know your honest opinion.

Thanks

I was already invested in a Ecutek license within the first 3 months of owning the car, june2012. Additionally, I will go full FI at some point. My approach to my build is to maintain capacity for future upgrades overtime. The ESC and nameless header made me take a left turn June last year. Since then I have been on a path to pair the two. In all honesty the 3" system is the way to go. Why do you think perrin phased out the 2.5 system...

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I would need to dyno a completely stock car in order to get a stock header+ESC dyno results. Even Sojhinn's car had a cat-less front pipe. But even so, the OFH+ESC dyno had a better power curve. Especially up top. I expect the delta to be even great when compared to a vehicle with a completely stock exhaust. But expectations are just expectations so I won't know for sure until I get to a dyno an otherwise stock car with the ESC



I don't think I'm going to be reinstalling the stock header in our car in the foreseeable future.

If we get a chance I'll try to do that but that's if we can. The closest you are going to get are my numbers since it was the same dyno as shiv's with comparisons.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

If we get a chance I'll try to do that but that's if we can. The closest you are going to get are my numbers since it was the same dyno as shiv's with comparisons.

What did you run again?

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by raven1231

What did you run again?

On the first or second post but...

206 hp on 91

223 on e85

[Gary in NJ]

Originally Posted by fredfromnh

I don't think this is due purely to weight. Feels to me as if car runs leaner at this point. Imo difference is too substantial.

This is purely in your head. First, the AFR doesn't change from full to less then 1/4...or any amount of fuel other then zero (sucking air). Secondly how in the wide-world-of-sports does a lean AFR (assuming a stock ECU where the programing does its best to maintain an AFR of 14.7) make a car faster?

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

On the first or second post but...

206 hp on 91

223 on e85

Sorry didn't know that was your car lol

[raven1231]

Just ordered my OFT, Perrin drop in and TopSpeed catback Exhaust! Can't wait to install everything next week! ESC+OFT E85 tune+intake+exhaust= a good ass time

[SloS14]

Is there a modifyable OFT tune for the ESC yet? I've fallen behind keeping up with the threads.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by SloS14

Is there a modifyable OFT tune for the ESC yet? I've fallen behind keeping up with the threads.

Shiv would have to confirm. I know the esc and vortech tunes are dev files and only flashable by a openflash tablet but they are still open in the fact that you can modify them.

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[fredfromnh]

Originally Posted by Gary in NJ

This is purely in your head. First, the AFR doesn't change from full to less then 1/4...or any amount of fuel other then zero (sucking air). Secondly how in the wide-world-of-sports does a lean AFR (assuming a stock ECU where the programing does its best to maintain an AFR of 14.7) make a car faster?

Most tunes lean the stock afr out in certain areas of power curve. Stock, this car runs rich, particularly at high rpms.

[Gary in NJ]

Originally Posted by fredfromnh

Most tunes lean the stock afr out in certain areas of power curve. Stock, this car runs rich, particularly at high rpms.

Now you're just makin' stuff up.

Stock this car runs damn-near the stoichiometric AFR of 14.7. Moreover, the stock EFI system does an outstanding job of maintaining this mixture across its wide rpm range.

Most aftermarket tunes for FI seek to RICHEN the mixture at WOT to 12.0 or lower. But under partial throttle my tune seeks a stoichiometric ratio.

Bottom line, there is no way the AFR goes lean at WOT. That's a recipe for detonation - no manufacturer is going to allow that.

Welcome to the forums. You can't BS people in this thread.