Springs vs Coilovers in Canada

[Simon99]

Originally Posted by f0rge

Hey sorry I'm late to the thread, but I'd like to suggest you DON'T do this, and just get coilovers to start with.

I have sportlines on my car, on stock struts, and I gotta say I'm not really that happy with anything other than the drop.

The ride is pretty terrible and you can tell the stock struts are not up to the task of damping the relatively short and stiff sportlines. My old car had coilovers with stiffer springs and good quality dampers, and it was way more "controlled" than my FRS is now.

After that car I vowed I'd never just do springs again, but for some reason I did, and just like I thought I'm regretting it.

If it's a money thing, just save longer or wait on the rims.

Don't forget you're also going to need LCA's no matter what path you choose.

Lower control arms needed with STI pink springs ?

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[f0rge]

Originally Posted by Simon99

Lower control arms needed with STI pink springs ?

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Not 100% sure but probably, 1.4inch drop gave me over 2.5 degrees negative camber on both rear wheels.

You may have less, but there's no stock camber adjustment, so be warned.

[Simon99]

Originally Posted by f0rge

Not 100% sure but probably, 1.4inch drop gave me over 2.5 degrees negative camber on both rear wheels.

You may have less, but there's no stock camber adjustment, so be warned.

They give about half an inch drop, thats why im asking

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[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Simon99

They give about half an inch drop, thats why im asking

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0.6" to be exact. For Mcpherson Strut design you don't need LCAs to correct the geometry unless you are slamming like 2 inches lol. STI catalog have trailing and lateral links for the rear double wishbone suspension but they are same as stock parts just with pillowball instead of rubber bushings to increase contact pressure for more grip and improve steering turn-in. Saying this just in case someone mistaken them for LCAs.

[f0rge]

You're going to want to do an alignment after you install the springs anyway, so check the rear camber numbers and if they're not where you want them to be you can get the LCAs after.

[BRZZZZZZZZZZ]

Personally I am going for Eibach Sportlines, Eibach Sway Bars, Bilstein Sport Series Shocks, Camber Bolts and Rear LCAs. May upgrade to Camber Plates for the front down the road too, if I can't get close to -2.0 degrees on the front. And my wheel setup is 16X7 Volk TE37s with 225/50/16 Hankook RS-3s. I geared my setup to STX Auto X more than looks.

[wparsons]

If it's for auto x, why the sportlines? There are much better spring rate options out there. The RCE Tarmac springs would be a much better performing spring I would think.

[BRZZZZZZZZZZ]

Originally Posted by wparsons

If it's for auto x, why the sportlines? There are much better spring rate options out there. The RCE Tarmac springs would be a much better performing spring I would think.

I got the springs for free, can't complain about that.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by BRZZZZZZZZZZ

I got the springs for free, can't complain about that.

so just because something is free, you'll slap it on and put yourself in a class that requires so much more out of your prep?


take a few things off that list and you'll have a better time in stock (esp here in Ontario)

[BRZZZZZZZZZZ]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

so just because something is free, you'll slap it on and put yourself in a class that requires so much more out of your prep?


take a few things off that list and you'll have a better time in stock (esp here in Ontario)

My wheel and tire setup already takes me out of stock, so it doesn't really matter anyway. Most events here I have been to I have been in the top 5-10 in terms of raw time, STX is only because I planned to lower the car and ended up throwing a few more fun items in.

I don't have the time or money to compete in every event nor travel, my setup will be perfect for what I use my car for.

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by wparsons

If it's for auto x, why the sportlines? There are much better spring rate options out there. The RCE Tarmac springs would be a much better performing spring I would think.

Is it because the car will be harder to rotate with sportlines? I think the Eibach catalog even said they are just made for looks.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by BRZZZZZZZZZZ

My wheel and tire setup already takes me out of stock, so it doesn't really matter anyway. Most events here I have been to I have been in the top 5-10 in terms of raw time, STX is only because I planned to lower the car and ended up throwing a few more fun items in.

I don't have the time or money to compete in every event nor travel, my setup will be perfect for what I use my car for.

you can do +/- 1" diamater, your 16x7 wheels are fine

unless you went crazy on the offset

[BRZZZZZZZZZZ]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

you can do +/- 1" diamater, your 16x7 wheels are fine

unless you went crazy on the offset

Offset is more than 10mm difference that's why its out of stock.

To put it kindly, if I was serious about competing I would have spent 1/4 of the price on a NA or NB Miata that's not only cheaper to buy, but cheaper to modify.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by krayzie

Is it because the car will be harder to rotate with sportlines? I think the Eibach catalog even said they are just made for looks.

Not enough bump travel left, and the spring rates aren't ideal for auto x.