Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by robwbright

So I'm guessing ESC, Header, Tune and 93 oct = high 5s?

That was without headers though I think, so yes probably that or less. Shiv however hasn't posted data for headers yet with the combo unfortunately...except for the TQ300

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by robwbright

So I'm guessing ESC, Header, Tune and 93 oct = high 5s?

With the header mid 5s I bet. I didn't have a header. With header and e85 low fives?

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

With the header mid 5s I bet. I didn't have a header. With header and e85 low fives?

Mid 5s would be awesome. Anything in the 5s would be satisfactory for me.

At this point, I think the ESC, OFT and OFH are my plan. I will likely do it in two purchases over the next 3-4 months... which raises the question: Which should I purchase first... ESC or OFT/OFH?

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by robwbright

Mid 5s would be awesome. Anything in the 5s would be satisfactory for me.



At this point, I think the ESC, OFT and OFH are my plan. I will likely do it in two purchases over the next 3-4 months... which raises the question: Which should I purchase first... ESC or OFT/OFH?

ESC and oft first. You need both in my humble opinion. And soon after that ofh.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by robwbright

Mid 5s would be awesome. Anything in the 5s would be satisfactory for me.

At this point, I think the ESC, OFT and OFH are my plan. I will likely do it in two purchases over the next 3-4 months... which raises the question: Which should I purchase first... ESC or OFT/OFH?

Well if you're getting the ESC then you kinda have to get the OFT or some other tuning source. I would personally do the ESC/OFT combo first and wait to see the dyno results for the OFH with the combo.

[Target70]

From my experience, when I do more than one mod at a time, and something doesn't work right, It's hard to pinpoint the cause. ex: On my 240sx, I swapped out my engine, a used trans, new fidenza aluminum flywheel, new exedy stage 1 clutch kit, and single piece alum drive shaft into a new body, and had got horrible vibrations during any decel.. after installing and removing the original engine twice before(the machine shop screwed me), I was sick of trying to fix stuff and a year later I bought my fr-s . Anyway long story short, I would say start with the oft and ofh If you are sold on it (still waiting on before after dynos myself). That way you can install header and flash, and make sure everything is working right, no exhaust leaks, or strange engine behavior. Then battery relocation and or esc.

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by Target70

From my experience, when I do more than one mod at a time, and something doesn't work right, It's hard to pinpoint the cause. ex: On my 240sx, I swapped out my engine, a used trans, new fidenza aluminum flywheel, new exedy stage 1 clutch kit, and single piece alum drive shaft into a new body, and had got horrible vibrations during any decel.. after installing and removing the original engine twice before(the machine shop screwed me), I was sick of trying to fix stuff and a year later I bought my fr-s . Anyway long story short, I would say start with the oft and ofh If you are sold on it (still waiting on before after dynos myself). That way you can install header and flash, and make sure everything is working right, no exhaust leaks, or strange engine behavior. Then battery relocation and or esc.

Yea, I'm doing car mods with money I make from legal work on the side (not from my full time job). In the next couple months I have checks coming in that will pay for either OFH/OFT or ESC. I'll go one route and then the other as the checks come in.

Neither check will be enough to do ESC and OFT, so... I guess it's not much of a choice if I can't run the ESC without a tune.

When you say waiting on before/after dynos, I assume you mean with ESC before header and with ESC after header? I'm pretty sure I've seen before/after header dynos without the ESC... haven't I?

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by robwbright

Yea, I'm doing car mods with money I make from legal work on the side (not from my full time job). In the next couple months I have checks coming in that will pay for either OFH/OFT or ESC. I'll go one route and then the other as the checks come in.

Neither check will be enough to do ESC and OFT, so... I guess it's not much of a choice if I can't run the ESC without a tune.

When you say waiting on before/after dynos, I assume you mean with ESC before header and with ESC after header? I'm pretty sure I've seen before/after header dynos without the ESC... haven't I?

Only ones posted are with the tq300 which isn't out yet and the header...none with the tq250 that comes with the kit and the header

[jpit]

Just to clarify. When you use four batteries for the supercharger you need to locate the starter battery somewhere else. I am using the Odyssey PC925 which is a little bigger than the one you can purchase from atbatt. No room for it under the hood so I located it in the trunk and ran a 4 gauge wire down the center console to the trunk. I also installed a 140 amp fuse close to the battery. I did connect the ground wire to the spare tire tie down bolt (used a shorter bolt). You will need to get a group 27 battery tray for the four supercharger batteries. With the dual battery packs I was able to run a couple of 0-60s at 6.2 and could probably break 6.0 if I tried a few more times. Currently running a Borla header and Perrin over pipe with 92 octane.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by jpit

Just to clarify. When you use four batteries for the supercharger you need to locate the starter battery somewhere else. I am using the Odyssey PC925 which is a little bigger than the one you can purchase from atbatt. No room for it under the hood so I located it in the trunk and ran a 4 gauge wire down the center console to the trunk. I also installed a 140 amp fuse close to the battery. I did connect the ground wire to the spare tire tie down bolt (used a shorter bolt). You will need to get a group 27 battery tray for the four supercharger batteries. With the dual battery packs I was able to run a couple of 0-60s at 6.2 and could probably break 6.0 if I tried a few more times. Currently running a Borla header and Perrin over pipe with 92 octane.

isn't 6.2 stock??? 6mt 0 to 60

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by raven1231

isn't 6.2 stock??? 6mt 0 to 60

I've seen as low as low 6s and as high as 7.5s. Apparently some car magazine/show guys can't shift at all.

Automobile Mag was 7.2.

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...u_brz_wrap_up/

Jeremy Clarkson said it was 7.5 in one of the videos I saw. I can't imagine he's that bad a driver...

Using Torque (not sure how accurate it is), I've gotten 6.7s slightly uphill and 6.5s slightly downhill. However, both times were in 30-40 degree F weather on the stock summer tires.

[Target70]

Originally Posted by robwbright

...When you say waiting on before/after dynos, I assume you mean with ESC before header and with ESC after header? ...

correct. specifically the OFH. I just want to see actual data before I commit. Some have mentioned drive-ability improvements which I suppose can't be measured, so a before/after dyno will be the best I can get. With oft/ofh/esc/batt relocation/4 dump pack/panel filter, you are approaching $3k. OFH with shipping, gaskets, and ceramic/wrap will be about 20% of the cost of the "kit". I am cheap, and that's a lot of money for me to spend without data. Of course I realize that what I am asking is for is Shiv to foot the bill and spend his own time/effort on dyno time, tuning, swapping parts, more tuning/dyno time, all for a (currently) small customer base, compared to the traditional boost market. So I would like to give him a big thanks for the efforts so far .

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Target70

correct. specifically the OFH. I just want to see actual data before I commit. Some have mentioned drive-ability improvements which I suppose can't be measured, so a before/after dyno will be the best I can get. With oft/ofh/esc/batt relocation/4 dump pack/panel filter, you are approaching $3k. OFH with shipping, gaskets, and ceramic/wrap will be about 20% of the cost of the "kit".

I agree...I have been waiting on this for awhile. Shiv said he was going to start on it after he released the OF300 which he did. I hope we can see some dynos soon. I'm fully committed just don't want to waste money if the gains aren't there to be had. Would be nice to know how much extra the OFH will net, also how big of a difference dual dump packs make.

[Sojhinn]

Guys just realize the tq 300 is a ways out. And there will be an upgrade path per Fenton. Have faith in the current product. It's incredible.