Top Gear Cool Wall. (FT edition) - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Draco-REX · 03-17-2012, 08:32 PM

Yes, I know, the Cool Wall is not a democracy. But here it can be since The Three Blokes are not present for their input.

Where on the Cool Wall do you think the BRZ and FR-S should be? And since the two siblings are somewhat different, you can rate them separate.

But remember some rules of the cool wall:

Placement has nothing to do with how good a car is, or how it performs.
Supercars are automatically uncool.
Fashionable cars are uncool because their impact fades quickly.
Having to explain a car makes it uncool.
If any of The Three Blokes own a car it's uncool regardless.
Only Aston Martins get to go into the DB9 cooler.

So.. Where would would slap a picture of a BRZ, or an FR-S?

bryan · 03-17-2012, 08:38 PM

No doubt in the cool section. However, I've seen a lot of people try to explain this car; why it only has 200 HP and how its low center of gravity gives it great handling.
Nonetheless, anybody who saw this on the street without knowing was it was has to think its cool. I mean, look at it! Its destined to be an iconic sports car. What's not cool about that?

Draco-REX · 03-17-2012, 08:42 PM

I'm going to put the BRZ in Cool and the FR-S in uncool.

[ClarksonMode]
The BRZ is cool because it has all of the nice handling of a Miata and other small cars. But it looks better. AND it has a hard top so you don't have to worry about everyone seeing your bad toupe.

The FR-S unfortunately gets bumped down to Uncool because it's being marketed to the Fast and Furious types who will stick big wings and flashing lights on it and generally ruin the car.
[/ClarksonMode]

Disclaimer: since this is the internet, I feel I should state this. The previousstatements about the BRZ and FR-S were tongue-in-cheek and meant to be taken in context along with the Top Gear UK television show. If anyone believes I mean all FR-S drivers are FnF kids who like neons and excessive wings, they obviously haven't seen the show.

Moolz · 03-17-2012, 09:07 PM

I said uncool, because you'll probably end up explaining to someone that the car is a joint effort between Subaru and Toyota, hence the reason why they're seeing a sporty Toyota driving past hehe

70NYD · 03-17-2012, 09:23 PM

I said cool, because a sports car really is a thing of the past. Hot hatches have taken over, and while they are cool, they can't be used in every form of Motorsport (missing the RWD part). These are, and while ppl might ruin them, they just might bring back the era that was once

dsgerbc · 03-17-2012, 09:51 PM

With all the hype, I'm surprised TG didn't get to try the car...

old greg · 03-17-2012, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

Only Aston Martins get to go into the DB9 cooler.

The Volvo V70 went into the fridge at one point.

That said, uncool on both counts. Any car which needs to have it's coolness explained to the general populace is always uncool, and is usually met with adenoid/anorak related mockery.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsgerbc

With all the hype, I'm surprised TG didn't get to try the car...

They film episodes several months in advance. The car wasn't available when they where filming the current episodes.

dsgerbc · 03-17-2012, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old greg

They film episodes several months in advance. The car wasn't available when they where filming the current episodes.

China episode (1st in a season) was filmed in Dec'11. Journalists got to try GT86/BRZ about the same time. I think it was feasible if Toyota/Subaru really wanted it to happen.

Draco-REX · 03-17-2012, 10:25 PM

I'm quite sure the GT-86 or BRZ (likely both) will show up on TG. There's too much chatter for it not to happen. I think it'll happen in the summer series when the car is available.

There will be the usual gripes. But I think we'll see a final verdict like the Chris Harris review.

dsgerbc · 03-17-2012, 10:39 PM

Sure, too late for that for the winter season

I'm just somewhat surprised, given the otherwise impressive hype-machine...

Devie · 03-17-2012, 11:30 PM

Definitely atleast uncool. Any car that has to be explained is instantly uncool.

gdi2290 · 03-18-2012, 12:02 AM

BRZ>GT86>FR-S>Cats on Youtube

Laika · 03-18-2012, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devie

Definitely atleast uncool. Any car that has to be explained is instantly uncool.

That's how I saw this. I voted uncool.

Snoopyalien24 · 03-18-2012, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsgerbc

With all the hype, I'm surprised TG didn't get to try the car...

They do have a written review sorta more of a 20 minute test drive review thing on the site.

View Poll Results: Rate the BRZ and FR-S on The Cool Wall
BRZ: Seriously Uncool	2	2.13%
BRZ: Uncool	7	7.45%
BRZ: Cool	42	44.68%
BRZ: Subzero	34	36.17%
FR-S: Seriously Uncool	4	4.26%
FR-S: Uncool	17	18.09%
FR-S: Cool	40	42.55%
FR-S: Subzero	14	14.89%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 94. You may not vote on this poll

03-17-2012, 08:32 PM	#1
Draco-REX Corner Junkie Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ, 11 STI, 99 RS Location: Ohio Posts: 2,908 Thanks: 129 Thanked 1,521 Times in 702 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Top Gear Cool Wall. (FT edition) Yes, I know, the Cool Wall is not a democracy. But here it can be since The Three Blokes are not present for their input. Where on the Cool Wall do you think the BRZ and FR-S should be? And since the two siblings are somewhat different, you can rate them separate. But remember some rules of the cool wall: Placement has nothing to do with how good a car is, or how it performs. Supercars are automatically uncool. Fashionable cars are uncool because their impact fades quickly. Having to explain a car makes it uncool. If any of The Three Blokes own a car it's uncool regardless. Only Aston Martins get to go into the DB9 cooler. So.. Where would would slap a picture of a BRZ, or an FR-S?

03-17-2012, 09:23 PM	#5
70NYD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Drives: RX8 S1 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,396 Thanks: 49 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I said cool, because a sports car really is a thing of the past. Hot hatches have taken over, and while they are cool, they can't be used in every form of Motorsport (missing the RWD part). These are, and while ppl might ruin them, they just might bring back the era that was once __________________

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03-17-2012, 08:38 PM	#2
bryan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Lots of Toyotas Location: SF, CA Posts: 103 Thanks: 8 Thanked 21 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No doubt in the cool section. However, I've seen a lot of people try to explain this car; why it only has 200 HP and how its low center of gravity gives it great handling. Nonetheless, anybody who saw this on the street without knowing was it was has to think its cool. I mean, look at it! Its destined to be an iconic sports car. What's not cool about that?

03-17-2012, 08:42 PM	#3
Draco-REX Corner Junkie Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ, 11 STI, 99 RS Location: Ohio Posts: 2,908 Thanks: 129 Thanked 1,521 Times in 702 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm going to put the BRZ in Cool and the FR-S in uncool. [ClarksonMode] The BRZ is cool because it has all of the nice handling of a Miata and other small cars. But it looks better. AND it has a hard top so you don't have to worry about everyone seeing your bad toupe. The FR-S unfortunately gets bumped down to Uncool because it's being marketed to the Fast and Furious types who will stick big wings and flashing lights on it and generally ruin the car. [/ClarksonMode] Disclaimer: since this is the internet, I feel I should state this. The previousstatements about the BRZ and FR-S were tongue-in-cheek and meant to be taken in context along with the Top Gear UK television show. If anyone believes I mean all FR-S drivers are FnF kids who like neons and excessive wings, they obviously haven't seen the show.

03-17-2012, 09:07 PM	#4
Moolz Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: none Location: Australia Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I said uncool, because you'll probably end up explaining to someone that the car is a joint effort between Subaru and Toyota, hence the reason why they're seeing a sporty Toyota driving past hehe

03-17-2012, 09:51 PM	#6
dsgerbc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: BRZ(sold), STI Location: A2, MI Posts: 1,915 Thanks: 176 Thanked 419 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	With all the hype, I'm surprised TG didn't get to try the car...

03-17-2012, 10:25 PM	#9
Draco-REX Corner Junkie Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ, 11 STI, 99 RS Location: Ohio Posts: 2,908 Thanks: 129 Thanked 1,521 Times in 702 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm quite sure the GT-86 or BRZ (likely both) will show up on TG. There's too much chatter for it not to happen. I think it'll happen in the summer series when the car is available. There will be the usual gripes. But I think we'll see a final verdict like the Chris Harris review.

03-17-2012, 10:39 PM	#10
dsgerbc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: BRZ(sold), STI Location: A2, MI Posts: 1,915 Thanks: 176 Thanked 419 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sure, too late for that for the winter season I'm just somewhat surprised, given the otherwise impressive hype-machine...

03-17-2012, 11:30 PM	#11
Devie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: Tornado Grey 86 GTS Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 176 Thanks: 1 Thanked 45 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Definitely atleast uncool. Any car that has to be explained is instantly uncool.

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