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tbrocato · 03-03-2014, 12:47 PM

In Louisiana...I have never had any vehicle checked. Just the simple...lights work...ok you good to go.

wparsons · 03-03-2014, 01:08 PM

In Ontario (Canada) brand new cars now have 7 years before needing testing (except when being sold), so it'll be a while before anyone up here goes through it either.

We're on the OBDII readiness state only tests now, which are a joke. My wife's bone stock Camry failed, went back the next day after doing literally nothing but drive home and drive back (have to wait 24 hours for a re-test) and it passed with flying colours.

StormTrooper · 03-03-2014, 03:36 PM

Idaho thankfully does not have scheduled tests.... If you were to change too much you may get pulled over and ticketed for no cats or too loud... Ect

OrangeJuleas · 03-03-2014, 04:04 PM

In CA, it's 6 years to the first smog test. As far as running an aftermarket catalytic converter goes, well, here are the exceptions to CA's policy (from CARB's website):

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...ftermktcat.htm

The aftermarket cat you are considering has to have an EO number (same goes with intake) in order to be recognized as acceptable. If they are required to do a visual inspection, then it would fail without being certified. Naturally, it only goes up to 2009 because that is when you are required to test your vehicle here, so you probably won't find too many people advertising their headers as CARB-legal (even a catted header).

I'm guessing most aftermarket cats with pass in terms of the sniff test...they aren't as stringent in NC as they are here in CA, so I'm guessing any Magnaflow (or similar) will do. If you're worried, ask the header manufacturer about who they are getting their cat from and see if you can't do more research on that company.

mid_life_crisis · 03-03-2014, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FrsDuke

Well if it is illegal to alter the cats there like it is in Cali... Get a cat back and you're fine, but anything else is technically illegal.

If you are really worried about legality, there is no state in the U.S. where it is legal, because it is against federal law to remove a functioning cat. Period.
If all you are concerned with is fooling an inspection, that's a different story.

Mobius357 · 03-03-2014, 05:42 PM

If I remember right any replacement cats must be equivalent to OEM, and you can't replace a functioning cat in the first 10 years. Basically all headers and front pipes are off road only. So you're banking on the inspection station missing or ignoring it.

jonbonazza · 03-03-2014, 07:53 PM

Is the FT86SpeedFactory catted header CARB legal? I am sure it is in their thread somewhere, but I don't feel like digging through all of those pages. :P

StormTrooper · 03-03-2014, 08:08 PM

The best catted header would most likely be JDL EL, but I don't think any header is carb approved.

Best of luck.

eSOLOR · 03-07-2014, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonbonazza

Is the FT86SpeedFactory catted header CARB legal? I am sure it is in their thread somewhere, but I don't feel like digging through all of those pages. :P

So, is it?

FrsDuke · 03-07-2014, 04:39 PM

Doubt it

Fred E · 03-07-2014, 04:40 PM

Even if it was CARB approved, it is still against federal law to replace/remove/relocate any functioning catalytic converter. Therefore, there is no "fully legal" header or front pipe for that matter.

FT-86 SpeedFactory · 03-07-2014, 04:42 PM

Our header is not CARB approved.

eSOLOR · 03-07-2014, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

Our header is not CARB approved.

I'm new to modding. So there's no legal way to run any header? What's the worse that could happen? How can one avoid getting in trouble if they decide to get one? (Especially in California). It seems like many people are installing them anyway.

thehapaone · 03-07-2014, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eSOLOR

I'm new to modding. So there's no legal way to run any header? What's the worse that could happen? How can one avoid getting in trouble if they decide to get one? (Especially in California). It seems like many people are installing them anyway.

Know a smog shop or put it back to stock when you have to smog...those are the only ways to avoid trouble. Even with that running non stock cats carries huge fines in CA (around 10k+ per missing cat) haven't heard of anybody getting these fines, but theoretically any cop could write you a ticket for running non stock cats

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tbrocato Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 Raven FR-S (MT) Location: South Louisiana Posts: 66 Thanks: 21 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	In Louisiana...I have never had any vehicle checked. Just the simple...lights work...ok you good to go.

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