When would you consider modding pulleys? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

1Cor10:23 · 03-02-2014, 11:07 AM

Hi all,

Quick question for those who have / plan to have pulleys - at what stage of modding would you get these? I've got CBE and Wheels on order, already have a tune. Debating whether I should save first for suspension setup or get the pulleys.

I know many will probably suggest suspension first but I'd like to ride on stock for a (perhaps throw on some bolts).

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Malt · 03-02-2014, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 1Cor10:23

Hi all,

Quick question for those who have / plan to have pulleys - at what stage of modding would you get these? I've got CBE and Wheels on order, already have a tune. Debating whether I should save first for suspension setup or get the pulleys.

I know many will probably suggest suspension first but I'd like to ride on stock for a (perhaps throw on some bolts).

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Pulleys add very little to the cars performance for what they cost. There are much better ways of spending your money if that is what you are after.

jonbonazza · 03-02-2014, 12:13 PM

My next step would be to finish off your exhaust. Header will make the most power for your money. I would also recommend grabbing an over pipe when you grab your header, since the OP is MUCH easier to install (and some OP's are only possible to install) with the header off. after those two pieces, finish it off with a nice front pipe. =)

1ofaKind · 03-02-2014, 12:24 PM

adding pulleys is a good addition to your build, but like most of us have already said get your bolts since that will probably get you more noticeable gains.

1Cor10:23 · 03-02-2014, 01:52 PM

Great, thanks for the input everyone - very helpful.

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NYCsubaruBRZ · 03-02-2014, 08:19 PM

not much to mod. intake, exhaust, header, pulleys, tune.

btw. the pulleys make a bigger difference than the exhaust and about half the price.. i would do intake first then pulleys, header, exhaust, and finish with a tune.

NYCsubaruBRZ · 03-02-2014, 08:20 PM

exhaust is the lowest gains and most expensive

Malt · 03-02-2014, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCsubaruBRZ

not much to mod. intake, exhaust, header, pulleys, tune.

btw. the pulleys make a bigger difference than the exhaust and about half the price.. i would do intake first then pulleys, header, exhaust, and finish with a tune.

You'd suggest an Intake then pulleys before a header?!

Most intakes are absolute crap and pulleys and very little. Headers and a tune should be the very first mod for anyone looking for power gains. Both a header and tune can be had for around the price of a decent CBE with shiv's OFT/OFH combo.

NYCsubaruBRZ · 03-02-2014, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Malt

You'd suggest an Intake then pulleys before a header?!

Most intakes are absolute crap and pulleys and very little. Headers and a tune should be the very first mod for anyone looking for power gains. Both a header and tune can be had for around the price of a decent CBE with shiv's OFT/OFH combo.

what intake do you have?
i have the injen intake (+~11hp +~11tq dyno proven, thats not crap)
do you have a pulley kit on your twin? my pulley kit made a nice difference. the car revs up quicker and there is more power.

if you r just going for a little power then headers and a tune is fine. but if you plan on an intake and exhaust it would be a waste to get a tune just to have to retune later when you get the intake and exhaust.

if your not looking to do every bolt on then id say go with an injen intake ~250, pulley kit ~300, then tune ~600 = 1150 best bang for the buck

headers do alot for this car but if your not doing everything you dont need a header.

best power mod for the price... injen intake ~250

Boofneenee · 03-02-2014, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCsubaruBRZ

what intake do you have?
i have the injen intake (+~11hp +~11tq dyno proven, thats not crap)
do you have a pulley kit on your twin? my pulley kit made a nice difference. the car revs up quicker and there is more power.

if you r just going for a little power then headers and a tune is fine. but if you plan on an intake and exhaust it would be a waste to get a tune just to have to retune later when you get the intake and exhaust.

if your not looking to do every bolt on then id say go with an injen intake ~250, pulley kit ~300, then tune ~600 = 1150 best bang for the buck

headers do alot for this car but if your not doing everything you dont need a header.

best power mod for the price... injen intake ~250

your just being silly. I had the injen ram intake and it was nothing but problems and loss in performance. Headers and tune will grant you the most power in an NA applications. End of story. Forced induction is a different story. I disagree with you in that pulleys are a game changer in terms of performance. Maybe peddle feel but on a dyno not so much.

did you get those dyno/stats for injen off their website or did you dyno yourself? Their has been a lot of research on intakes for this car and nothing has really proven to be worth its cost.. drop in filter proves to be the best bang.

FrsDuke · 03-02-2014, 11:14 PM

Okay, Beavis. Uh heh heh heh.

Captain Snooze · 03-02-2014, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FrsDuke

Okay, Beavis. Uh heh heh heh.

lol.
thanks, that made me laugh.

Captain Snooze · 03-02-2014, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Boofneenee

I disagree with you in that pulleys are a game changer in terms of performance.

This. When I had my engine pulley replaced with a Perrin unit I was not sure if I could tell a difference or whether I was just placebo-ing it. (Yeah, placebo as a verb.) It was suggested by a gentleman on these forums that there is a more noticeable difference when going back to a heavier pulley.

Subjectively (butt dyno) there was a more noticeable gain when I replaced the over-pipe but as I say that is not proven.

If you look at dyno graphs for Nameless or JDL headers you will see a definite improvement.

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Originally Posted by NYCsubaruBRZ

btw. the pulleys make a bigger difference than the exhaust and about half the price.

To me that reads like total mis-information.

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Originally Posted by NYCsubaruBRZ

what intake do you have?
i have the injen intake (+~11hp +~11tq dyno proven, thats not crap)

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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

I've seen more issues with this Intake than most of the others. Only fix I've seen is a tune, or the one guy that modified his into a true CAI.

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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

The problem with this intake stock is it can mess with the MAF readings and throw off the AFR pretty badly. Also the reason why it produced some really high numbers in some dyno threads. Tune fixes all of that.

These forums have many threads on the issues that people have had with the Injen intake.

NYCsubaruBRZ · 03-02-2014, 11:50 PM

say what you want. i know the injen made power. and while many had problems with it. i did not.

i put intake on by its self. then back to stock. exhaust by its self. then back to stock, pulleys by them self, then back to stock and so on. and i raced stock frs each time to determine what was better gains. so i know that it made good power. exhaust was about tripple the price and maybe half the power.

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1ofaKind bRz Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: Subaru Brz Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 149 Thanks: 26 Thanked 102 Times in 53 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	adding pulleys is a good addition to your build, but like most of us have already said get your bolts since that will probably get you more noticeable gains.

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NYCsubaruBRZ Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ & 99' Ford Explorer Location: NYC Posts: 709 Thanks: 94 Thanked 87 Times in 66 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	not much to mod. intake, exhaust, header, pulleys, tune. btw. the pulleys make a bigger difference than the exhaust and about half the price.. i would do intake first then pulleys, header, exhaust, and finish with a tune.

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NYCsubaruBRZ Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ & 99' Ford Explorer Location: NYC Posts: 709 Thanks: 94 Thanked 87 Times in 66 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	exhaust is the lowest gains and most expensive

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NYCsubaruBRZ Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ & 99' Ford Explorer Location: NYC Posts: 709 Thanks: 94 Thanked 87 Times in 66 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	say what you want. i know the injen made power. and while many had problems with it. i did not. i put intake on by its self. then back to stock. exhaust by its self. then back to stock, pulleys by them self, then back to stock and so on. and i raced stock frs each time to determine what was better gains. so i know that it made good power. exhaust was about tripple the price and maybe half the power.

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