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Old 10-07-2012, 08:54 AM   #1
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Thumbs down EU to Ban Modding

It looks like a shitty future for the European bros. Old news but just in case you missed it...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...disqu s_thread

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...MOT-rules.html
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:01 AM   #2
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Fuck that
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:15 AM   #3
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That is seriously !@#$…
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:16 AM   #4
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Wait just a sec. That's for UK.
The problem is that MoT in the Uk let almost everything pass, so you end up with poorly built kit cars and extremely modified cars on the road.

UK is not entirely part of the EU.

EU actually has a E*-**** homologation number on parts (E1 is Germany, so the TUV, E1 is Italy, ministero dei trasporti, etc).

You can fit parts with that code on the car, with some limitation varying from country to country.
In Italy you can fit suspensions, exhaust systems, lights, seats etc if they have a EU homologation, but you can't alter the tyre and wheel size without the manifacturer OK, you can't fit spacers (they modify the carriage width) or big bodykit (they change the size of the car).
In Germany you can fit most of these things if you can pass the quite rigid test at the local TUV centre, so if you're car is drivable on the road (-->adeguate tyres, not too low, steering angle ok etc) you pass the test.

Actually Italy made some steps toward the legalization of tuned cars with certified components. At the moment some company as Brembo has homologated kits that you can legally fit on your car.
Basically you can't fit:
Extreme engine mods (transplants, turbo conversions...usually the rule is if they can't see it's ok...)
Rollcage
Spacers
HID with no projectors, height automatic adjustment and washing jets
Steering wheels with no airbags
Bucket seats
4-5 points hareness (you can fit them but on the road you must use the 3 point ones)
Non homologated exhaust systems (but they basically check just the muffler if the sound is not too loud)
Wheels and tyre sizes not on the car documents (you usually can have a few different size transcripted on them a the "DMV", on the BRZ you can have 18" in 225)
Extreme bodykits etc...
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:27 AM   #5
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UK is not entirely part of the EU
Just don't let an English aristocrat catch you saying that.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:33 AM   #6
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I'm not talking in the geographical sense...do they have € in the UK? I don't think so...
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:51 AM   #7
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In their defense, shit like this should be illegal.
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Well in Sweden (also EU) there are already laws or regulations that states the a car must look and have exactly the same parts on it as it had when it was new. When going for the every year MoT.
But usually the techs working on the stations which inspect your car doesn't really care aslong as it's not totally insane mods.

If hes a real bitch the tech could deny your car if you have changed to aftermarket wheels that's not OEM.
There's no way in hell that you can turbocharge or supercharge a NA car here, it will never be accepted at the MoT.
You have to remove all parts, go do MoT, pass, then you can put all the parts back again....

And yes UK is 100% EU, it's not related to the money currency they have.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:29 PM   #10
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Damn, I feel sorry for the piston heads that have to deal with this crap. It wouldnt surprise me if the US adopts something like this in the next 20-30 years though.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:02 PM   #11
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We already have similar strict laws in Belgium. We can't do engineswaps, brake swaps basically everything interesting is banned. That's why so many people overhere build showcars. Coilovers have to have special papers that state if they are allowed in Belgium. We have alot of die-hard performance car fans so they just do it and hope nobody sees it.
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Kinda makes you glad we have SEMA over here.

I am for safety inspections however. We have them here in VA and it at least helps a little in keeping blatantly unsafe cars off the road. When I lived in Chicago I was blown away by the junkers on public roads.
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Kinda makes you glad we have SEMA over here.

I am for safety inspections however. We have them here in VA and it at least helps a little in keeping blatantly unsafe cars off the road. When I lived in Chicago I was blown away by the junkers on public roads.
I am against safety
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What a communist, freedom hating government. Of course, many politicians in the US see them as a role model for us to follow so I'm sure they'll try to pass some BS law like that here too before long...
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