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Ryan86 · 02-19-2014, 09:03 AM

Im battling to establish the correct plug to go 1+ colder.

OEM Denso plug is equivalent to 9 NGK heat

Im told to use NGK R2558A-10

anyone changed there plugs to 1+ colder, what heat you went for and which plug.

Many Thanks

CK_Bladesmith · 02-19-2014, 09:18 AM

If there's any possibility of maximizing gains with a perrin CAI, that would be awesome as I want to keep it for the enhanced whine. While heel/toe downshifting, blipping the throttle had always been laggy with the perrin intake, both while I was NA and now that I'm boosted. Not sure if anything can be done about that but if there is I'd like to see some improvement with that intake.

Sellout · 02-19-2014, 09:59 AM

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So the 355 and 210 model numbers may be the torque output instead of a random model number?

Liters per second. Its a measure of how much air the supercharger is capable of moving.

Bonks86 · 02-19-2014, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by evan

Interesting. I just switched to the Airaid setup, but am awaiting a retune and dyno. Let us know your thoughts on whether the stock snorkel hinders performance or not. Airaid is convinced that removing it will net more power.

pic of the setup?

xxscaxx · 02-19-2014, 11:34 AM

I almost bought a used Airaid intake to swap out the box, but wasn't sure it was worth it. Curious to see if it yields any more power (and possibly increase that whine?

)

pheoxs · 02-19-2014, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by xxscaxx

I almost bought a used Airaid intake to swap out the box, but wasn't sure it was worth it. Curious to see if it yields any more power (and possibly increase that whine?

)

Given that the airraid intakes were showing a loss in power NA I'd probably avoid them for the innovate setup

evan · 02-19-2014, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pheoxs

Given that the airraid intakes were showing a loss in power NA I'd probably avoid them for the innovate setup

I don't quite believe in the loss of power result. I think it's all in the tune. It's just a box and cone filter. A well designed one at that. I see and hear so much loss of power bullshit without substantiating the actual cause. It just takes one person or test to ruin something. I know the magazine test you are probably referring to where they tested a bunch of intakes. Besides, there are SO many factors in chassis dynameter testing that errors are bound to exist in the result.

evan · 02-19-2014, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonks86

pic of the setup?

I'll post one later.

Zach3794 · 02-19-2014, 12:00 PM

Not to mention Bill had already experienced an additional 10whp when he put the airaid box on his car before it got the innovate blower. All in the tune

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xxscaxx · 02-19-2014, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pheoxs

Given that the airraid intakes were showing a loss in power NA I'd probably avoid them for the innovate setup

This may be true but NA and FI are two different entities. But I will say it is a reason I didn't take a risk and get it.

evan · 02-19-2014, 12:04 PM

Also.. In MY case I'm not using half the Airaid setup since the intake path is now different. The elbow that ships with the kit is still sitting in the box. I have an aluminum pipe going from the supercharger/throttle body to the Airaid box. This alone changes everything. Any test out there is now invalid in my case.

pheoxs · 02-19-2014, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by evan

I don't quite believe in the loss of power result. I think it's all in the tune. It's just a box and cone filter. A well designed one at that. I see and hear so much loss of power bullshit without substantiating the actual cause. It just takes one person or test to ruin something. I know the magazine test you are probably referring to where they tested a bunch of intakes. Besides, there are SO many factors in chassis dynameter testing that errors are bound to exist in the result.

That makes sense, and yeah you are correct I am probably referencing the same article as most people. I would love to see one tuned and see how it does.

xjohnx · 02-19-2014, 02:31 PM

So i'm pulling my blower tonight to make sure the rubber strip seals on top of the IC are still in place properly. For those of you that have removed the blower post IC install ( @Ryan86 maybe?), what's the least messy way of disconnecting the coolant lines that feed the intercooler?

swift996 · 02-19-2014, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by xjohnx

So i'm pulling my blower tonight to make sure the rubber strip seals on top of the IC are still in place properly. For those of you that have removed the blower post IC install ( @Ryan86 maybe?), what's the least messy way of disconnecting the coolant lines that feed the intercooler?

Why remove the lines? You can take the blower off without doing that.

02-19-2014, 09:18 AM	#3502
CK_Bladesmith Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: Raven FR-S Location: Victoria TX Posts: 335 Thanks: 372 Thanked 95 Times in 75 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If there's any possibility of maximizing gains with a perrin CAI, that would be awesome as I want to keep it for the enhanced whine. While heel/toe downshifting, blipping the throttle had always been laggy with the perrin intake, both while I was NA and now that I'm boosted. Not sure if anything can be done about that but if there is I'd like to see some improvement with that intake. __________________ Raven FR-S mods: Unichip, Ground Control street coilovers with camber plates and strut tower brace, SPC Lca's, Drag DR-38 wheels with Dunlop Direzza DZ101s, Perrin CAI and silicone inlet tube, Perrin 3" resonated catback, Perrin high flow catted front pipe, Rev Works UEL header.

02-19-2014, 12:00 PM	#3509
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Ryan86 Road Warrior Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 Satin Pearl White Location: Durban, South Africa Posts: 1,651 Thanks: 181 Thanked 544 Times in 359 Posts Mentioned: 59 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Im battling to establish the correct plug to go 1+ colder. OEM Denso plug is equivalent to 9 NGK heat Im told to use NGK R2558A-10 anyone changed there plugs to 1+ colder, what heat you went for and which plug. Many Thanks

02-19-2014, 11:34 AM	#3505
xxscaxx Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: New York Posts: 2,240 Thanks: 458 Thanked 878 Times in 556 Posts Mentioned: 34 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I almost bought a used Airaid intake to swap out the box, but wasn't sure it was worth it. Curious to see if it yields any more power (and possibly increase that whine? )

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evan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: fr-s Location: pdx Posts: 546 Thanks: 396 Thanked 202 Times in 129 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Also.. In MY case I'm not using half the Airaid setup since the intake path is now different. The elbow that ships with the kit is still sitting in the box. I have an aluminum pipe going from the supercharger/throttle body to the Airaid box. This alone changes everything. Any test out there is now invalid in my case.

02-19-2014, 02:31 PM	#3513
xjohnx Grip>Slip Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 SWP BRZ Ltd - Innovate Powered! Location: RVA Posts: 3,563 Thanks: 656 Thanked 1,717 Times in 1,031 Posts Mentioned: 45 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	So i'm pulling my blower tonight to make sure the rubber strip seals on top of the IC are still in place properly. For those of you that have removed the blower post IC install ( @Ryan86 maybe?), what's the least messy way of disconnecting the coolant lines that feed the intercooler?

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