Premium owners-Do you find the extra goodies are not worth it?

[daiheadjai]

In retrospect, I don't think I'll ever buy another car with a push-button start.
Where a traditional key makes it easy for you to switch back and forth from Engine on to Accessory, the push button doesn't allow you to choose directions, forcing users to cycle through mode by mode (i.e. it could take 3 button pushes to accomplish something you could've done by twisting the key once).
This becomes a problem in the real world - for example, if you were talking on the phone to someone via bluetooth, and park your car, you either need to leave the engine on until you finish your conversation, or pull out your phone, continue the conversation and turn off the car (whereas on other cars, you could just turn the car to ACC mode and continue the conversation without doing anything else).

Couple this with the horrendous lag for the audio/navi to boot up, and it's a real inconvenience.

I've also had an instance where I thought I had stalled (lights came on, engine sputtered), and hit the button hoping to quickly start up again - instead, I ended up turning off the car when it didn't stall (thankfully it was at a stop and the person behind me was very patient).

Not only that, but this car doesn't have much storage space as it is - the push button takes up some more real estate.

If I could order a BRZ with the heated seats (for the wifey), climate control, and alcantara leather, but no push start (I'm ambivalent about the fogs and the spoiler), I would have.

[flashburn]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

In retrospect, I don't think I'll ever buy another car with a push-button start.
Where a traditional key makes it easy for you to switch back and forth from Engine on to Accessory, the push button doesn't allow you to choose directions, forcing users to cycle through mode by mode (i.e. it could take 3 button pushes to accomplish something you could've done by twisting the key once).
This becomes a problem in the real world - for example, if you were talking on the phone to someone via bluetooth, and park your car, you either need to leave the engine on until you finish your conversation, or pull out your phone, continue the conversation and turn off the car (whereas on other cars, you could just turn the car to ACC mode and continue the conversation without doing anything else).

Couple this with the horrendous lag for the audio/navi to boot up, and it's a real inconvenience.

I've also had an instance where I thought I had stalled (lights came on, engine sputtered), and hit the button hoping to quickly start up again - instead, I ended up turning off the car when it didn't stall (thankfully it was at a stop and the person behind me was very patient).

Not only that, but this car doesn't have much storage space as it is - the push button takes up some more real estate.

If I could order a BRZ with the heated seats (for the wifey), climate control, and alcantara leather, but no push start (I'm ambivalent about the fogs and the spoiler), I would have.

Good luck with that. Unless you don't plan on buying a new car ever again.

Also, plenty of cars let you switch to Accessory mode without having to cycle through button presses, it just takes a rocker style start button, like the C6 Corvette has (and probably C7 as well).

Sounds like most of your complaints are specifically about the way the BRZ handles accessories when shutting off the car, which I completely agree with.

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by flashburn

Good luck with that. Unless you don't plan on buying a new car ever again.

Also, plenty of cars let you switch to Accessory mode without having to cycle through button presses, it just takes a rocker style start button, like the C6 Corvette has (and probably C7 as well).

Sounds like most of your complaints are specifically about the way the BRZ handles accessories when shutting off the car, which I completely agree with.

Between this and drive-by-wire throttles (and all the Spyder drivers on this board), I'm really tempted to get an old MR-2 and attempt a 2zz swap for my next fun car.

[oldpueblo]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

In retrospect, I don't think I'll ever buy another car with a push-button start.
Where a traditional key makes it easy for you to switch back and forth from Engine on to Accessory, the push button doesn't allow you to choose directions, forcing users to cycle through mode by mode (i.e. it could take 3 button pushes to accomplish something you could've done by twisting the key once).
This becomes a problem in the real world - for example, if you were talking on the phone to someone via bluetooth, and park your car, you either need to leave the engine on until you finish your conversation, or pull out your phone, continue the conversation and turn off the car (whereas on other cars, you could just turn the car to ACC mode and continue the conversation without doing anything else).

Couple this with the horrendous lag for the audio/navi to boot up, and it's a real inconvenience.

I've also had an instance where I thought I had stalled (lights came on, engine sputtered), and hit the button hoping to quickly start up again - instead, I ended up turning off the car when it didn't stall (thankfully it was at a stop and the person behind me was very patient).

Not only that, but this car doesn't have much storage space as it is - the push button takes up some more real estate.

If I could order a BRZ with the heated seats (for the wifey), climate control, and alcantara leather, but no push start (I'm ambivalent about the fogs and the spoiler), I would have.

The thing is, your example is a going to be generally a rarity. Whereas the convenience of push button is something that you'll use multiple times a day. I enjoy the conveniences of the push button system all day every day, and only occasionally hit the BT phone thing, which let's be honest isn't really a big issue. I just transition to my phone since I'm usually getting out of the vehicle anyway, since I've arrived.

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by oldpueblo

The thing is, your example is a going to be generally a rarity. Whereas the convenience of push button is something that you'll use multiple times a day. I enjoy the conveniences of the push button system all day every day, and only occasionally hit the BT phone thing, which let's be honest isn't really a big issue. I just transition to my phone since I'm usually getting out of the vehicle anyway, since I've arrived.

Get off my damn lawn, you kids!

No, you're right - that is a specific situation raised as an example.
Definitely up to personal preference.

Me, I think I'd prefer to turn the key myself - although the keyless entry part is fantastic (i.e. not having to fudge around for the key in your pocket).

[oldpueblo]

I literally lock my door with my butt whenever I get out of my car holding objects in both hands. Butt power for the win.

[JS + BRZ]

Originally Posted by oldpueblo

I literally lock my door with my butt whenever I get out of my car holding objects in both hands. Butt power for the win.

This.

This is my first car with keyless.

Never really cared for it, but now that I have it on my BRZ Limited, it'll be hard for me to let this option go. It has a lot of upsides.

As for the thread, I didn't like the knobs in the center console on Premium. That was the major reason why I got a Limited over Premium. Got the Limited for like 26k, so it was a no brainer for me. Good enough deal for me to just get it. It's cheap as hell for an incredible driving car.

[Kevstra]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

In retrospect, I don't think I'll ever buy another car with a push-button start.
Where a traditional key makes it easy for you to switch back and forth from Engine on to Accessory, the push button doesn't allow you to choose directions, forcing users to cycle through mode by mode (i.e. it could take 3 button pushes to accomplish something you could've done by twisting the key once).
This becomes a problem in the real world - for example, if you were talking on the phone to someone via bluetooth, and park your car, you either need to leave the engine on until you finish your conversation, or pull out your phone, continue the conversation and turn off the car (whereas on other cars, you could just turn the car to ACC mode and continue the conversation without doing anything else).

Couple this with the horrendous lag for the audio/navi to boot up, and it's a real inconvenience.

This. +1. Hell, +avogadros number.

I love the HID headlights, and like the spoiler. Leather seats are nice. HATE HATE HATE the push button, and the HVAC annoys me.

Seriously, poster above gets it - I want to roll up to where I'm picking someone up, turn the car off, and not have to wait 17 minutes for the damn head unit to boot up.

I like the keylessness of it though - if there was some middle ground where the turning mode selection of the key was retained, but became keyless, that would be perfect.



To answer the OP, I have a limited and a large part of me wishes I went with the Premium. I would have saved money, and I could have added the OEM HID headlights myself later.

[JS + BRZ]

This is what I wanted:

[Turbo95eg6]

Originally Posted by JS + BRZ

This is what I wanted:

Same here. Before I got my Limited, I drove my friend's premium. I was not happy with the cheap look of the interior. Almost to the point where I doubted ordering a BRZ. Got my Limited, and looked 100 times better. Needless to say, I was relieved.

[JS + BRZ]

Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6

Same here. Before I got my Limited, I drove my friend's premium. I was not happy with the cheap look of the interior. Almost to the point where I doubted ordering a BRZ. Got my Limited, and looked 100 times better. Needless to say, I was relieved.

My wife bought me the car.

When she saw the Premium interior, she was like you are kidding me, right? Then I showed her the Limited interior, she was like hmm maybe.

[BRZZZZZZZZZZ]

Originally Posted by JS + BRZ

My wife bought me the car.

When she saw the Premium interior, she was like you are kidding me, right? Then I showed her the Limited interior, she was like hmm maybe.

Where can I sign up to acquire a wife that buys me cars? Thanks

[JS + BRZ]

Originally Posted by BRZZZZZZZZZZ

Where can I sign up to acquire a wife that buys me cars? Thanks

You need to be wealthy enough to buy a much more expensive car for her. Haha

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[ncmx5]

YES HIDs plus the cloth seats are a winner... I didnt like the leather/alcantara seats that the limited had. I got lucky and found a premium with fog lights so from the outside it looks like a limited.