frs or camaro

[mush]

just from reading the first post, i think OP would be much happier with a v8 camaro
its his first choice and he obviously want more straight line power

[AVodka14]

These cars just don't compare. Everyone above has given solid advice. You have to test drive each one and feel them out. Take your time and make an informed decision. We can't make that for you. I have driven a V8 Mustang, ridden in a V8 camaro, and a ZO6. The all were all torque monsters. I loved the 02 Z28 and the 02 ZO6. I am a sucker for 4 cylinder motors. Especially this platform with RWD. The 6 speed is what sold me on this car with other obvious reasons along side of that. Let us know what you decide.

[torqdork]

Originally Posted by JakeG

honestly, Camaro. you americans love your V8's.

Don't you?

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/

About the OP, until s/he drives both, there's little to say. It's one of those self-evident truths obvious to most who drive the FR-S and understand the concept. There's a reason the car has received more awards from the international automotive press than any other car in history.

[campy]

This is a strange thread to make on an FRS enthusiast website.

[R.S-HawK]

Originally Posted by Ocala FR-S

Honestly, I can't be sure. I did not consider a Camaro. I just thought if someone did, that's what they really want, and they would be happy with their choice.

I chose to ignore the Camaro at first and I begun to regret it. 3 months later, I took the opportunity to test drive the RS and SS models only to find out I had made the right choice purchasing an FR-S in the first place.

The best way I can describe those two vehicles, is to compare them to a set of floating bricks. One slightly faster than the other.

Adding to that, the salesmen at the Chevy dealership were at awe seeing my car pull into the lot. I spent more time talking to them about my car than they did about the cars they were trying to sell me. Several of them even suggested why I'd consider trading my car for a Camaro in the first place. Half didn't know what a boxer engine was.

To say the least, I drove back home in my FR-S with a smile on my face.

[Reaper]

Ive built a few chevy cars in my day and was in a similar situation when looking for a new car. It was either a v8 camero with an exhaust and a cam or my frs with wheels, tires, fullblown motorsports gtx turbo and full exhaust. Both would be the same price at the end of the day after parts. My frs will be more fun and have more hp to weight. Corners, drifts and puts a smile on my face. LS motors are great but I'm starting to realize there's a lot more to a car that excites me. Like light weight and responsiveness.
But stock against stock the frs is nimble and fun to ravage with its low stock hp where as the camero is more fun in a straight line with its superior hp. Hope that helps.

[robwbright]

I have no camaro experience in the last 20 years (other than I kinda like the current green color). Didn't want a car that heavy, although I'm sure I would enjoy it if I had one.

Aside from that, I tend towards Japanese cars because:

1: They seem to make a lot of cars I like (light and high revving);

2: I've owned a lot of Japanese cars and MX bikes and generally had good experiences across the board; and

3: My father in law has been the best transmission mechanic in our area for 25+ years (I say that because the local dealers send him the issues their mechanics can't solve). He's a huge NASCAR fan, used to build his own dirt track modifieds to race - a 460 motor in the last one... both of which would make you think he's a Ford or Chevy or Dodge guy. Not.

A typical conversation in his shop is about how American car companies often design their cars to fail (although he is coming around on Ford's stuff in recent couple years). He typically speaks highly of Toyota, Honda, Subaru and even Nissan and Mazda designs. He's inside the trannys (and motors on occasion) of all brands on a regular basis and has shown me the internals and how/why they break on numerous occasions.

Frankly, a lot of the American designs he has shown me do appear to be designed to break (he describes them as designed to break at 100k... unless they're some of the Dodge/Chrysler products... in which case he sees them as early as 40k on multiple occasions). A particular, common GM transmission (I can't recall the model) has the same exact part break every time... and they keep making it the same year after year after year... and he keeps fixing it year after year after year... and thanking GM for keeping him in business. LOL.

Another thing he points out is how a company like Honda/Toyota will use 3 bolts to hold a panel on where GM might use 1 or 2...

It is what it is - one man's opinion. But having been around his shop a lot over the years, what I've seen is that the difference in quality and design between the American stuff and the Japanese stuff is obvious.

At any rate, he now races the east coast shifter kart series (which he won a couple years back). What engine does he run when he's going 125 mph 3 inches off the ground? Honda CR125 (although I'd note that he uses a Rotax 250 twin if he wants to run 150-160 mph).

[Porsche]

Originally Posted by Pegasus

Honestly, if he asks for an opinion go ahead and give him it. He didn't want a bunch of wise @$$'s saying that they can't tell him what his favorite ice cream is

What did you call me, you insolent brat?

You know, kid, when you pair poor critical thinking and reasoning skills with bad manners ... this is what we get.

I framed the OP's question EXACTLY as he asked it. This is about PERSONAL PREFERENCES, not absolutes. I couched it in terms that might help him recognize WHY we might be unable to tell him what HE might PREFER.

We can only hope he is a wee bit smarter and better educated than you, hmmm?

I have never driven a Camaro, the reviews I have seen told me that the visibility is that of a tank and that the manual shifter is pretty crude so I didn't bother. But it seems that the Camaro is a Muscle car and the FR-S is a sports car.

Will you listen to this towering intellect.

The difference is quite plain

No. It is not.

There are more different viewpoints in this world than you might imagine, sonny.

Lacking any insight into HIS personal PREFERENCES, we are unable to tell him which of the two perfectly good choices would better suit HIM.

, the Camaro will be better for highway cruising

No. It will not.

Not for me it won't, nor for many others, but AGAIN you draw the not-so-bright conclusion that YOUR PREFERENCES are to be made general and applicable to everyone, and become universal truths.

and is faster.

No. The Camaro is NOT faster.

Try chasing me down a winding road with the Camaro. Your crash may make the evening news.

If your drives include corners that you would enjoy carving out then the FR-S has superior suspension, steering feel, shifter ect.

To YOU, maybe.

You STILL don't understand, do you?

But if you drive it like a normal car then Camaro would be my recommendation, if your a hooligan FR-S.

Because YOU say so?

Are you going to spend the rest of your life confusing your personal preferences with universal truths?

Intellectual intolerance is a sign of a poor intellect and a poor education.

Have you understood a word that I've written?

Never, mind. Don't answer that.

That will be all.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Porsche

What did you call me, you insolent brat?


That will be all.

DANG!, @Porsche ..... you can put the belt down and let him out of the woodshed now ......


humfrz

[suaveflooder]

Originally Posted by humfrz

DANG!, @Porsche ..... you can put the belt down and let him out of the woodshed now ......


humfrz

My vote is give him a good beating

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by suaveflooder

My vote is give him a good beating

....... ...... well, if you would have ever been in the woodshed, after my father finished with you with his belt ..... a regular "beating" would have been getting off easy ....


humfrz

[suaveflooder]

Originally Posted by humfrz

....... ...... well, if you would have ever been in the woodshed, after my father finished with you with his belt ..... a regular "beating" would have been getting off easy ....


humfrz

HAHAHAHA!!!

[Wolfking]

Originally Posted by Rayme

The FRS is a scalpel, the v8 camaro's a butcher's knife.

Lol! That's awesome!

[reni]

Originally Posted by failingpig

So I've been tossing up the idea of getting a new vehicle. My first choice was just upgrade from my v6 to a v8 camaro.
Last year when I see the commercial for it I decided I needed to have an frs. What are some onions. Should I stick with my camaro or go for an frs.
My price range is about 25k and I can get a brand new one for that.
How do these things handle and drive?
The nearest one is a decent ways away so I'm wondering if it'd be worth it to take the top to dive it.

you should get a camaro, that way your username will make sense...

Seriously though, it depends what the roads are like where you live. If I lived in Flyover Country I would probably prefer having a muscle car