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Old 08-07-2013, 12:08 PM   #1
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FR-S Vs. Camaro (Decisons...decisions)

Let me start of by saving this isn't your average versus thread. Allow me to explain my predicament...

I'm 22 years young and I am a engineer working for general motors. I am interested in two vehicles, a Camaro & FR-S/BRZ (FRZ).

I have test driven both cars and I'm pretty happy with how they both drive, although I have my gripes.

The Camaro is wide, heavy with lots of power. After driving it I was pretty satisfied lots of usable power, good handling the only thing that bothered me was the enormous pillars in the car that thing is blind spot city.

The FR-S is awesome just lacking in the power department, its a car about balance not balls to the walls speed. The visibility was much better than the Camaro, as was the handling.

So I'd be happy with either car honestly even though they are two completely different animals. I understand the comparison is a bit ridiculous but the main reason I'm comparing is because I'm a GM employee. And us GM employee get some nice discounts. If both were at the same price I think I would take the FR-S/BRZ hands down, but that is simply not the case.

So basically, If I purchased the Camaro I'd be saving 5-6 thousand with respect to the FR-S. So put yourself in my shoes and imagine this from my perspective.

22 years young, just started career, lives at home (lol), college loans, first NEW car.

Do you think 5-6 grand justifies getting a Camaro over a FRZ, given the circumstances or would you still choose the FRZ despite the large price margin? I realize I'm asking this on the FT86 forums (I'm a long time lurker) and after spending some time on the Camaro forums well, I don't want to go back there.

Edit: V6 not V8

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Old 08-07-2013, 12:13 PM   #2
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I take it this is a V6 Camaro, then? I would only take the V8 over that FR-S, and that's really more for the sound than the power.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:18 PM   #3
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Love my 86 but I've always had a soft spot for american muscle cars - maybe because we do not get them here.

Personally for the price div I'd go with camaro. As you said first job / car so you have a lot of years / cars ahead.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:19 PM   #4
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Unique scenario there my friend!

Good news is that both are great cars, and I'm sure you will be happy with either, although as you already have pointed out each has it's own strengths and weaknesses.

I say go for the twins: plus you can tell your co-workers that you're doing competitive research on the twins to bring back to your engineering work for GM!

Just curious, what kind of discount could you score for a new stingray?!
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That's a tough one. Sounds like the question to ask yourself what type of car you really want to live with every day, or is money more important? If the 86 will strain your budget, question answered.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:26 PM   #6
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I have to say this was like de javu when I saw this. My friend just bought a 2013 Camaro 1LE SS. I drove it around with the Goodyear Eagle F1 Summer tires that come on them. The 1LE package just blows my mind. The FRS is a way better handling car, in every way and form.
The 1LE allows you to push the car hard and is more forgiving if you lose momentuem. The FRS carries its momentuem through the turns with the intended oversteeer. The 1LE will bury your ass in a ditch if you get throttle happy.
I have an appointment Saturday for Gallas Chevrolet to appraise my FRS and tell me how long to get my Metalic Silver 1LE. If the trade in is high KB I'll do it. I will not take less than 24K for my FRS.
Good Luck. Seems like if your a GM employee the discount you get on a Camaro would be decent. The Insurance would insure you stay living at home for a while, but then what do I know.
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I'd take a BRZ over a V6 Camaro, but a V8 model...idk that's a tough one.

You work for GM though, if you get steep enough discounts that other people can't get, I'd go Camaro. Plus it'll make your boss happy and your co-workers won't give you a hard time lol

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If $$$ is the deciding factor, get the Camaro. But if driving satisfaction is the issue, remember there are things you can do to squeeze quite a bit more power out of the FRZ, but not much you can do to lighten the Camaro.



Plus, you'll probably be making more money in the next couple of years, by which time the difference in cost will seem less important to you than it does now. But the satisfaction that comes from enjoying what you drive never diminishes. So I'd say, buy whichever one you enjoy driving the most.
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I'd take a BRZ over a V6 Camaro, but a V8 model...idk that's a tough one.

You work for GM though, if you get steep enough discounts that other people can't get, I'd go Camaro. Plus it'll make your boss happy and your co-workers won't give you a hard time lol

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Basically what I would have a said as well.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:42 PM   #10
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Unique scenario there my friend!

Good news is that both are great cars, and I'm sure you will be happy with either, although as you already have pointed out each has it's own strengths and weaknesses.

I say go for the twins: plus you can tell your co-workers that you're doing competitive research on the twins to bring back to your engineering work for GM!

Just curious, what kind of discount could you score for a new stingray?!
Not at the plant I work at but the other one around here, if you drive an import you have to park further from the plant and the GM vehicles get prime parking haha... I guess they are trying to perpetuate the sterotype that Americans are fat >.< I don't mind the exercise.

On the Corvette well unfortunately I cannot get a discount on that =(

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That's a tough one. Sounds like the question to ask yourself what type of car you really want to live with every day, or is money more important? If the 86 will strain your budget, question answered.
Yea it will be a DD, and I do have a bit of a drive approximately 50 miles round trip to work. So the FR-S would be the winner by a little bit on that end (Mostly thruway).

It won't necessarily "strain" my budget because I will be able to afford the payments but the lump sum of 6 thousand dollars is still a large pile of cash to me.

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I take it this is a V6 Camaro, then? I would only take the V8 over that FR-S, and that's really more for the sound than the power.
I want a sporty yet some what economical car so I wouldn't consider the V8 since I need a DD!
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Old 08-07-2013, 01:06 PM   #11
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If you're on the fence after test-driving both, then buy the one that's cheaper.
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Don't even bother with the V6. If you want a V6 muscle car get a Mustang (how funny would that be at work?)

I'd take the FRS over the V8 too, for a couple of grand you can give the FRS more power but you're never going to make a Camaro lose 1000+lbs.
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If you want a good muscle car at an affordable price...

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Get a Mustang


In all seriousness, though, in your situation I wouldn't let where I work determine what car I get. That said, if you are that concerned with your coworkers reactions, get the Camaro, even if it may be the lesser car in your opinion (at least thats what I am reading)
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