Bilstein Shock B6-B8 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Victor Draken · 12-27-2013, 02:00 PM

Why are they available in Europe but not in America?

Are they better then the Koni?
What's the main difference between the B6 and the B8?

Guillaume · 02-13-2014, 05:40 PM

They are more durable than Koni (and can be rebuild). B6s are for stock springs or minimal drop, B8s are for lowering springs.

FT-86 SpeedFactory · 02-13-2014, 11:39 PM

These are available in the states. The b8 is available now the b6 is still missing rears in the states.

Victor Draken · 02-14-2014, 04:05 PM

the HD are B6 and the Sport are B8?

7thgear · 02-14-2014, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Victor Draken

the HD are B6 and the Sport are B8?

yes

7thgear · 02-14-2014, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fooddude

Wow...that is much cheaper than ft86 speedfactory prices...you can get the whole ball of wax for $764. That + some good springs make this a pretty darn affordable quality setup.

I'm wondering if these can be custom rebuilt (when the time comes after worn) for use with higher spring rates and track use and by who? And if it's affordable.

Heavily gravitating towards B8s and some GC f6.7 r7.7 sleeves springs.

if you're gonna re-valve them then you're already in the price range of a decent coilover. So unless you have the tools to do it yourself or live close to a rebuilder and do him occasional favors behind the shed then it's not very efficient.

GirlRepellent · 02-14-2014, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

These are available in the states. The b8 is available now the b6 is still missing rears in the states.

I think these are B6 rears 24-228398

fooddude · 02-14-2014, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thgear

if you're gonna re-valve them then you're already in the price range of a decent coilover. So unless you have the tools to do it yourself or live close to a rebuilder and do him occasional favors behind the shed then it's not very efficient.

I said "when the time comes" ...meaning, in a couple years when they are starting to get worn out or need servicing. I'm sure it would be pricey and unwise to buy brand new B8s and have them rebuilt right away vs just getting coilovers...but it would be nice to know if these can be custom built (with more aggressive valving preferably) in the future when needed/wanted.

FT-86 SpeedFactory · 02-14-2014, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlRepellent

I think these are B6 rears 24-228398

Correct. They are not in the USA yet for some reason.

7thgear · 02-15-2014, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by fooddude

...but it would be nice to know if these can be custom built (with more aggressive valving preferably) in the future when needed/wanted.

yeah um this is sorta a given for companies like Bilstein or Koni..

fooddude · 02-15-2014, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thgear

yeah um this is sorta a given for companies like Bilstein or Koni..

Does it usually have to be rebuilt by a certified bilstein technician/shop? ...or can any good damper rebuilder/shop do it? (idk if they need bilstein specific parts and tools, that maybe only bilstein shops have, to work on them).

8686 · 02-21-2014, 04:43 PM

Just want to confirm that ride quality is better than stock.

Had a freind with stock suspension driving my car and he directlt noticed how good the shox was in damping the road harshnes.

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CSG David · 02-21-2014, 04:54 PM

B6 and B8 are available.

There's a place to rebuild these shocks in Poway, CA.

7thgear · 02-21-2014, 04:57 PM

can they be retrofitted with external canisters for adjustability during such a rebuild?

i had a... friend.. awhile back that did that to his own stuff, but he was keep to himself type of guy.

from what i know (which could be entirely wrong), the shim design of Bilsteins isn't as big a mystery as Koni... or is it the other way around.

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8686 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 86 Location: SA Posts: 364 Thanks: 395 Thanked 116 Times in 81 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just want to confirm that ride quality is better than stock. Had a freind with stock suspension driving my car and he directlt noticed how good the shox was in damping the road harshnes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ VOLK LE37 17X7.5, SWIFT Springs, Bilstein B8, HKS intake duct, Cosworth Air Filter, HKS headers, PLM Over Pipe, EVS Down Pipe & Exhaust, FD 4.55, GFB pulleys, Axle-Exchange Drive Shaft, Mishimoto oil cooler, Cusco F&R strut bar, TRD door stabilizer, Innovate SC, Delicious Tuned

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