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Victor Draken 12-27-2013 02:00 PM
Bilstein Shock B6-B8
 
Why are they available in Europe but not in America?

Are they better then the Koni?
What's the main difference between the B6 and the B8?

Guillaume 02-13-2014 05:40 PM
They are more durable than Koni (and can be rebuild). B6s are for stock springs or minimal drop, B8s are for lowering springs.

FT-86 SpeedFactory 02-13-2014 11:39 PM
These are available in the states. The b8 is available now the b6 is still missing rears in the states.

Victor Draken 02-14-2014 04:05 PM
the HD are B6 and the Sport are B8?

7thgear 02-14-2014 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor Draken (Post 1529550)
the HD are B6 and the Sport are B8?
yes

7thgear 02-14-2014 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fooddude (Post 1529502)
Wow...that is much cheaper than ft86 speedfactory prices...you can get the whole ball of wax for $764. That + some good springs make this a pretty darn affordable quality setup.

I'm wondering if these can be custom rebuilt (when the time comes after worn) for use with higher spring rates and track use and by who? And if it's affordable.

Heavily gravitating towards B8s and some GC f6.7 r7.7 sleeves springs.
if you're gonna re-valve them then you're already in the price range of a decent coilover. So unless you have the tools to do it yourself or live close to a rebuilder and do him occasional favors behind the shed then it's not very efficient.

GirlRepellent 02-14-2014 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory (Post 1527972)
These are available in the states. The b8 is available now the b6 is still missing rears in the states.
I think these are B6 rears 24-228398

fooddude 02-14-2014 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 1529573)
if you're gonna re-valve them then you're already in the price range of a decent coilover. So unless you have the tools to do it yourself or live close to a rebuilder and do him occasional favors behind the shed then it's not very efficient.
I said "when the time comes" ...meaning, in a couple years when they are starting to get worn out or need servicing. I'm sure it would be pricey and unwise to buy brand new B8s and have them rebuilt right away vs just getting coilovers...but it would be nice to know if these can be custom built (with more aggressive valving preferably) in the future when needed/wanted.

FT-86 SpeedFactory 02-14-2014 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GirlRepellent (Post 1529584)
I think these are B6 rears 24-228398
Correct. They are not in the USA yet for some reason.

7thgear 02-15-2014 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by fooddude (Post 1530403)
...but it would be nice to know if these can be custom built (with more aggressive valving preferably) in the future when needed/wanted.


yeah um this is sorta a given for companies like Bilstein or Koni..

fooddude 02-15-2014 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 1530716)
yeah um this is sorta a given for companies like Bilstein or Koni..
Does it usually have to be rebuilt by a certified bilstein technician/shop? ...or can any good damper rebuilder/shop do it? (idk if they need bilstein specific parts and tools, that maybe only bilstein shops have, to work on them).

8686 02-21-2014 04:43 PM
Just want to confirm that ride quality is better than stock.

Had a freind with stock suspension driving my car and he directlt noticed how good the shox was in damping the road harshnes.


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CSG David 02-21-2014 04:54 PM
B6 and B8 are available. :)

There's a place to rebuild these shocks in Poway, CA.

7thgear 02-21-2014 04:57 PM
can they be retrofitted with external canisters for adjustability during such a rebuild?

i had a... friend.. awhile back that did that to his own stuff, but he was keep to himself type of guy.

from what i know (which could be entirely wrong), the shim design of Bilsteins isn't as big a mystery as Koni... or is it the other way around.


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