BRZedit - My thoughts so far

[SirBrass]

Originally Posted by brn12345

BRZedit can load any of the open source maps out there. Shiv has put out numerous Stage 1 and Stage 2 maps that are free. Those can be flashed with BRZedit. Also the logger software in BRZedit is lightyears ahead of EcuTek. That alone justifies the cost of getting BRZedit.

A more reasonable example on price would be:
Ecutek : $850 hardware and tune (can only be used to flash and limited logging)
BRZedit : $420 hardware and tune (logger is amazing and the hardware can be used for many other things)

Let alone that if you want the good features of Ecutek you have to pay $399 extra for the Racerom.

To put it simply, I bought my Tactrix, Shivs OFT tablet, and my BRZedit software for less than a Ecutek package....

$850??

I got my ecutek cable, deskey, and license for right around $600.

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by fenton

Question for you guys that are much more versed with the different types of software. First i had Ecutek and Visconti tune. Visconti said that if i wanted to completely remove ecutek from the car i had to flash a Rom-nilpir file to completely get rid of it so dealer couldnt see. I asked him if there was a way to do it differently so that the license stayed.....he then told me to flash the same file but just to remove the nilpir from the file name.

I did that and then i got tuned uzing BRZedit at my local tuner. I can still use my Ecutek for logging because i didnt buy BRzEdit.

Main question is what state is my car at interms of licenses and whatnot? I plan to get one of Shiv's Phantom SC tunes and a OFT this spring, not sure if i will have to do something before he can flash?

Is there anyway that i can salvage the money i put into ecutek so that it would be useful to someone else?

Thanks for the help.

you should still have a license, right? if not i'm sure you could get ahold of ecutek and have them issue you a new one or something, you paid for it. i don't see why you'd want to use OFT if you already have ecutek or brzedit though, and the you already have two other things that do the exact same thing lol. you don't have to have an oft to use the OTS maps (once they're released in bin format).

[fenton]

Originally Posted by jamesm

you should still have a license, right? if not i'm sure you could get ahold of ecutek and have them issue you a new one or something, you paid for it. i don't see why you'd want to use OFT if you already have ecutek or brzedit though, and the you already have two other things that do the exact same thing lol. you don't have to have an oft to use the OTS maps (once they're released in bin format).

I dont have BRZedit, just used the tuners cable and ability to create a map for me.

I use ecutek for logging currently. I think i still have a license because i can log?

Honestly i just want to sell the ecutek if i can and buy more goodies for my car.

My tuner wasnt able to get a really good torque curve like shiv could get when tuning the ECS....it was running pretty pig rich down low.

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by fenton

I dont have BRZedit, just used the tuners cable and ability to create a map for me.

I use ecutek for logging currently. I think i still have a license because i can log?

Honestly i just want to sell the ecutek if i can and buy more goodies for my car.

My tuner wasnt able to get a really good torque curve like shiv could get when tuning the ECS....it was running pretty pig rich down low.

um.... ok. you realize that the OTS maps work with ecutek too, right? there's literally no difference at all if all you're doing is flashing an OTS map.

[mad_sb]

Originally Posted by jamesm

um.... ok. you realize that the OTS maps work with ecutek too, right? there's literally no difference at all if all you're doing is flashing an OTS map.

Wait, so ecutek can now open and flash un encrypted real roms? Meaning not a rom with ecutek custom code in it, but a generic file created with romraider or ecuflash?

Or are you saying you can copy paste maps into ecutek and then flash?

[mad_sb]

Originally Posted by fenton

I dont have BRZedit, just used the tuners cable and ability to create a map for me.

I use ecutek for logging currently. I think i still have a license because i can log?

Honestly i just want to sell the ecutek if i can and buy more goodies for my car.

My tuner wasnt able to get a really good torque curve like shiv could get when tuning the ECS....it was running pretty pig rich down low.

Your ecutek software should be able to query the ecu and tell you if you have a valid license file in the ecu. Don't ask me how to do that though as i have never used ecutek on this platform.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by mad_sb

Wait, so ecutek can now open and flash un encrypted real roms? Meaning not a rom with ecutek custom code in it, but a generic file created with romraider or ecuflash?

Or are you saying you can copy paste maps into ecutek and then flash?

Ya im not sure either but I think that shiv said the new maps will only flash from a oft.

I don't think he has any bin files for the tq300

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[jamesm]

Originally Posted by mad_sb

Wait, so ecutek can now open and flash un encrypted real roms? Meaning not a rom with ecutek custom code in it, but a generic file created with romraider or ecuflash?

Or are you saying you can copy paste maps into ecutek and then flash?

i'm pretty sure you can open unencrypted roms... i'll try later to confirm. and they'll have to make bin files eventually. that's the only open part of the oft lol.

edit: just confirmed.. yes they do open as normal. only caveat being that you can't add racerom feature files. everything else works just as expected.

[Shiv@Openflash]

Originally Posted by jamesm

um.... ok. you realize that the OTS maps work with ecutek too, right? there's literally no difference at all if all you're doing is flashing an OTS map.

At this time, are only releasing the ESC maps in proprietary .dev file format. After that, the new generation of OTF ROMs will still be fully viewable and editable, just not upload-able through Ecutek or BRZ edit.

[Shiv@Openflash]

Originally Posted by fenton

Ya im not sure either but I think that shiv said the new maps will only flash from a oft.

I don't think he has any bin files for the tq300

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Same map for TQ250 and TW300. The dyno comparing the two compressors had the same tune.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Same map for TQ250 and TW300. The dyno comparing the two compressors had the same tune.

So am I able to get that file and flash via ecutek?

Only reason I ask is my brzedit tune is a little rough around the edges. I thought you had to do something different on the 300 because of the MAF reading down low?

Is there any risk flashing a car that already has a tune on it from different software?

Sorry for all the questions I'm still learning.

Still planning on getting the oft and header in spring.

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[Ross]

before swapping to another brand of software always flash back to stock. Then Flash the new software.

[Shiv@Openflash]

Hi Fenton,
The ESC map (and upcoming Vortech maps) are only available in .dev format so it's only compatible with OFT. The adjustments I made to the map were for the TQ300 but they worked just fine with the TQ250. I definitely recommend flashing back to stock before changing flashing platforms.

Originally Posted by fenton

So am I able to get that file and flash via ecutek?

Only reason I ask is my brzedit tune is a little rough around the edges. I thought you had to do something different on the 300 because of the MAF reading down low?

Is there any risk flashing a car that already has a tune on it from different software?

Sorry for all the questions I'm still learning.

Still planning on getting the oft and header in spring.

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[fenton]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hi Fenton,
The ESC map (and upcoming Vortech maps) are only available in .dev format so it's only compatible with OFT. The adjustments I made to the map were for the TQ300 but they worked just fine with the TQ250. I definitely recommend flashing back to stock before changing flashing platforms.

OKay thanks. Does anyone know anything about the nlpir ecutek files? the nlpir precedes the ROM....for example:

"nlpir ZA1J700C-enc.BIN"

"ZA1J700C-enc.BIN"

Thanks again!