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Old 02-11-2014, 08:45 PM   #3333
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If I weren't going supercharged I'd see what kind of gains this would put out when the rest of my 3" exhaust gets here. Don't want to buy a separate tune though just for results I don't care about. I think @Shneegle is getting a full 3" though with this header. Hopefully once his arrives he can post some before and after numbers. I think he is staying NA for a while.

Correct sir. Once I get this ill be putting it on and getting it tuned. Will have before and after all on the same dyno. Gonna be on 93 and hopefully we can get it over 200 whp NA with header and the 3" header back exhaust. I'm looking forward to it getting here.
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:52 PM   #3334
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What SC are you coupling this header with? Interested in respect to clearances overall. Thx
Innovate. I had ordered it last Friday but there was a mixup so I have to reorder again tomorrow. I'll be running the Stage 2 version with a 70mm pulley, full 3" Nameless exhaust from header to tail pipe, and the Nameless intake for the Innovate supercharger. Hoping for some good results.
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:54 PM   #3335
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probably needs a touch more exhaust cam retard there at 3200.. hard to say till i get on the dyno with mine. It is possible that is it just the one are that they could not get the nth order resonances to line up in a way that would boost output in that range. I know lots of folks still want to believe the factory torque dip is 100% tuning or the cat but it isn't, it's the design of the factory header.

Also note, these resutls are with the rest of the exhaust stock
Do you think it is just the header or could it be in part the intake manifold?

Only reason i ask is when we pressurize the intake is pressurized by the phantom electric superchargers the dip is completely destroyed by the positive pressure even though it is 4.5psi.

Just trying to understand it

Thatruth has both a phantom and the 4 -2-1 header so we should see soon what they do together.

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Old 02-11-2014, 09:32 PM   #3336
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...So is a new stealth quiet headerback exhaust being designed as well to pair up with the headers?
It's called the Q300 lol
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:39 PM   #3337
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Do you think it is just the header or could it be in part the intake manifold?
I'm no expert but i have been giving it some thought. Boost doesn't rely on scavenging to create VE so it could still be 100% stock header IMO. But, i honestly have no idea, just what the tinker-toy physics model in my brain tells me

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Only reason i ask is when we pressurize the intake is pressurized by the phantom electric superchargers the dip is completely destroyed by the positive pressure even though it is 4.5psi.

Just trying to understand it

Thatruth has both a phantom and the 4 -2-1 header so we should see soon what they do together.

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Nice, should be interesting results for sure. I have a feeling headers are not going to change results much for any supercharger due to what i was saying above. I certainly don't think they will help, but the percentage gains you get with boost will be lower than without... i think. But then again, if you were designing the header with boost in mind i think the tubing diameters would be a bit larger than all the current headers no?
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:44 PM   #3338
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So what are we looking at with 2.5" catless + muffler delete, tune, E85? 215? 220?
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:38 PM   #3339
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So what are we looking at with 2.5" catless + muffler delete, tune, E85? 215? 220?
Earplugs.
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Earplugs.
Do you put on a dress every morning?

"Ohhhh... Nameless told me the 3" would be loud when I was up their @$$ about making it for me but I still wanted it. Now I can't jam out to Hootie and the Blowfish or hear the crickets everyone else brags about..."

If you want something quiet leave your car alone and be content with mediocrity
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Do you put on a dress every morning?

"Ohhhh... Nameless told me the 3" would be loud when I was up their @$$ about making it for me but I still wanted it. Now I can't jam out to Hootie and the Blowfish or hear the crickets everyone else brags about..."

If you want something quiet leave your car alone and be content with mediocrity
Loud is one thing. Sounding like a raspy Mexican fartcan is another. I assure you my car is loud now, the good kind of loud.

By the way, are you mad?
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Old 02-11-2014, 11:13 PM   #3342
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It was terrible, the currently offered 3" system has been pretty heavily revised since they made Matt's I believe
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Old 02-11-2014, 11:18 PM   #3343
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It was terrible, the currently offered 3" system has been pretty heavily revised since they made Matt's I believe
Jason mentioned a larger resonator in the midpipe was in the works. Haven't actually seen it, but it desperately needs it.
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Old 02-11-2014, 11:22 PM   #3344
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Wow, I must say I didn't think the day would come this soon... Excellent work guys, I think with a 3" exhaust and 93 oct tuning +200whp should not be a problem. Now I may have to order a BRZ without waiting for the STi version to come out
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Hah hah hah....

Coming from Matt this is super funny / sarcastic! (as I am sure he intended)

Matt, Are those nameless header charts making you start thinking about starting your quest for perfect sound all over again? You've only been happy for a few weeks now!
Would have gotten the Nameless header had it been unequal length, but I don't see it performing much higher than the JDL which was expected for N/A.
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Do you put on a dress every morning?

"Ohhhh... Nameless told me the 3" would be loud when I was up their @$$ about making it for me but I still wanted it. Now I can't jam out to Hootie and the Blowfish or hear the crickets everyone else brags about..."

If you want something quiet leave your car alone and be content with mediocrity
Some of us want power without noise... nothing wrong with that. I'm not into slamming cars or fluorescent wheels or a whole lot of other things but I realise we are all fans of the same cars and therefore have something in common that keeps us coming back to this forum that we can have fun talking about.... not criticising other posters.

Matt spent a lot of time (and probably money) to finally be happy with his exhaust so good for him. Although now I have to wonder if he's drooling over these nameless charts and starting his exhaust quest all over again
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