Is Tomei 60s Really this loud??

[leech]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m652NpMNyM"]GT86 Drive by Night - Tomei 60s Catback - YouTube[/ame]

Hi people,
I am thinking about buying a Tomei 60s catback and had watched several videos on youtube.
this is the most recent one I found there, it seems a bit louder than I thought (a lot louder?)... any comments? or owner can share some info? thanks a lot!!!

[hotpanda1]

he probably has headers, a test pipe, a over pipe lol, if you get just the catback it won't sound like this, search ft86speedfactory on you tube, they have good videos of the type 60s

[Reaper]

My local shop has this setup. Super loud.

[BAMF86]

He's definitely running a test pipe or headers with his system. The catback itself doesn't sound that raspy.

I'm currently running a 60s with the rest of exhaust stock, and its really tolerable for a DD. But it would realistically be too loud if you were to upgrade your headers and test pipe/overpipe. I'll probably be switching to the invidia q300 or perrin resonated once I upgrade my full exhaust

[xDanger_208x]

Tomei 60s on an otherwise stock exhaust sounds amazing! I love mine.

[fooddude]

Depends on how many cats there are. The less kitty cats, the louder the hungry dogs will bark.

[akahenry]

I believe just the 60s alone with everything else in the exhaust stock, won't be as loud as the setup from the aforementioned video. With that said, any other modification done onto the exhaust with the 60s attached, will yield significant loud noises. Honestly, if you're going to spend around $1k for an exhaust, buy something that has a dual exhaust tip. It is your money in the end- just a suggestion.

[leech]

Originally Posted by akahenry

I believe just the 60s alone with everything else in the exhaust stock, won't be as loud as the setup from the aforementioned video. With that said, any other modification done onto the exhaust with the 60s attached, will yield significant loud noises. Honestly, if you're going to spend around $1k for an exhaust, buy something that has a dual exhaust tip. It is your money in the end- just a suggestion.

thank you for your suggestion here. I love Tomei for it's weight saving and material used. However, I don't really track or anthing so might not even feel this weight reduction. I got a question though, any benefit of dual exits compared to the single? besides the look. maybe some aero?


how about the flow? I keep feeling that single exit seems to have better flow? again, that's just what it seems like to me. no backup datas here.
thank you all for the input. I love this car, just wish it could sound a bit better from the factory to make it more like a sport car haha..

[akahenry]

I agree with you in regards to the weight reduction and better flow of single tipped exhausts. My opinion and view in this topic of double or single canister exhaust tips is go with "the one that looks the best to you and the one that came with the factory design (dual canister tips in this regards)." I'm pretty sure there must have been a reason why Subaru and Toyota insisted on the dual canister tip design rather than a single canister tip design, perhaps for better aero, performance, or aesthetics- who knows! Bottom line for me, I'd stick with the dual look because the factory came with the dual look. Just to steer this aside, what are your goals for your car? Force Induction or N/A? If N/A, you might best start with the headers first. Move down from the headers to the axleback, to determine the best sound tolerance for yourself. I'm staying N/A, and am saving to buy a Catted UEL header in the future (probably the FT86 one).
If you want my honest opinion, just let everything in the exhaust stay stock and delete the muffler in your axleback or add a straight pipe. (there are cheap straight pipes for under $300 on ebay) Just start doing your suspension first- tires, wheels, coilovers/springs, and control arms. After that, then hit the exhaust portions of your car. I regret spending $1.3k on my CATBACK (mid pipe + axle back) alone and neglecting my suspension portion of my car. Next mod to my car is definitely wheel and tires.

[leech]

Originally Posted by akahenry

I agree with you in regards to the weight reduction and better flow of single tipped exhausts. My opinion and view in this topic of double or single canister exhaust tips is go with "the one that looks the best to you and the one that came with the factory design (dual canister tips in this regards)." I'm pretty sure there must have been a reason why Subaru and Toyota insisted on the dual canister tip design rather than a single canister tip design, perhaps for better aero, performance, or aesthetics- who knows! Bottom line for me, I'd stick with the dual look because the factory came with the dual look. Just to steer this aside, what are your goals for your car? Force Induction or N/A? If N/A, you might best start with the headers first. Move down from the headers to the axleback, to determine the best sound tolerance for yourself. I'm staying N/A, and am saving to buy a Catted UEL header in the future (probably the FT86 one).
If you want my honest opinion, just let everything in the exhaust stay stock and delete the muffler in your axleback or add a straight pipe. (there are cheap straight pipes for under $300 on ebay) Just start doing your suspension first- tires, wheels, coilovers/springs, and control arms. After that, then hit the exhaust portions of your car. I regret spending $1.3k on my CATBACK (mid pipe + axle back) alone and neglecting my suspension portion of my car. Next mod to my car is definitely wheel and tires.

First, thanks for your reply. I was also looking for a catted UEL header before mainly for the boxer sound. Then I did some research online, some said UEL is not good because of the uneven exhaust heat issue, but some said that they have UEL for thousands and thousands miles with zero issue. I mean one problem I see with modded header is that aftermarket doesnt seem to come with the heat shield that factory provided. I mean the heat shield is there for a reason I thought, or factory could have easily removed it for the cost benefit. I am planning on keeping the car for a long time, I live in Taiwan and my family usually use the car for about 15 years or so.
another thing is that dealers here are really really not familiar with this car/engine, and so do I, I am not a mechanic myself either. I am keeping my car as NA for its lifetime service. As for now, I am only looking for a catback that will last long and sound good when reving while not bothering people cruising around. I am sadly giving up my header mod option only because I am afraid of the warranty and issues down the road here in Taiwan.

[FR-S Matt]

Damn that needs a cat and resonator. Sounds like complete shit. Don't be that guy.

[leech]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Damn that needs a cat and resonator. Sounds like complete shit. Don't be that guy.

Right, that is just way too race-like haha

[mad_sb]

same as any other cat-back, if you just do the cat-back and leave the rest stock it will totally manageable. Once you remove the cat from the front pipe it gets a bit louder, once you do a cat-less header it turns into a raspy rice monster. So far the only civil cat-back's for a full cat-less car (aftermarket cat-less header, and cat-less front pipe) are the Q300 or the resonated perrin 2.5. Im sure a couple of the suitcase muffler replacements will also be tame, like the legamax.

[TylerLieberman]

Subaru and Toyota did dual exhaust cause every sports car has dual exhaust now...

I don't see the reason to have a dual exhaust for a 2.0L 4cyl engine...except to fill the other hole in the bumper now.