Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[nlowell]

Originally Posted by VR46

Hey @shiv@vishnu - I just received my ESC today - do you have a tune that I can use on my OFT after I install?

In the absence of that, @Robftss or @fenton should I wait until a tune is available before installing? (Currently: Borla UEL, Tsudo catted front pipe, OpenFlash Stage 2 UEL E85 A01D 1.54b map)

We have a similar setup.
I'm auto with OFH, OFT, nameless carted down/overpipe, nvidia Q300, and e85.

My header and Phantom ESC should both arrive this week (already have the batteries)

Shiv is going to head down to SD and tune me and Sojhinn at the same time (both with ESCs). Not sure when he's coming down yet but I would think that should produce a pretty close tune for you.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

This is a very good point about the OFH that is often missed. An aftermarket header enhances non-WOT performance while the Phantom Electrocharger's mountain of torque is on deck for when it's time to get busy.

For a while I was torn between gutting the stock cat, which has shown to yield nearly the same gains as an aftermarket header, or buying an OFH. What swayed me back to the OFH were that I could keep my stock header for warranty repairs (an advantage that the Phantom Echarger shares), and of course 'dat sweet boxer rumble.

Huge thanks to @shiv@vishnu and the gang at Vishnu and Openflash as I'm currently running OFT+e85. The car loves corn juice because of his tune and that device.

Legendary-epic thanks to @Robftss, @fenton, and all the Phantom eCharger testers/tuners. I am now a week away from receiving my Phantom Electrocharger. Shortly afterward, the OFH. Build thread coming up!

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I agree in a lot of ways, that's why I'm getting the open flash header too. One thing a lot of people haven't talked about (including the beta testers) is how awesome the drag reduction is. I often will accelerate without activating the esc (wife is not a huge fan of all that awesome torque) but the drag reduction actually adds power to the stock car. It's great. I'm sure the header will help with this nice little power booster for everyday driving.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by nlowell

We have a similar setup.
I'm auto with OFH, OFT, nameless carted down/overpipe, nvidia Q300, and e85.

My header and Phantom ESC should both arrive this week (already have the batteries)

Shiv is going to head down to SD and tune me and Sojhinn at the same time (both with ESCs). Not sure when he's coming down yet but I would think that should produce a pretty close tune for you.

Crazy I got the q300 too. How do you like the nameless catted down overpipe?

[nlowell]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Crazy I got the q300 too. How do you like the nameless catted down overpipe?

I like it, but not sure I can feel it. I'm at chuckwalla raceway right now about to go out for my final run and the corn juice tune is doing great. I can't wait for the extra boost on the straights!

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by nlowell

I like it, but not sure I can feel it. I'm at chuckwalla raceway right now about to go out for my final run and the corn juice tune is doing great. I can't wait for the extra boost on the straights!

Good luck!

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

I agree in a lot of ways, that's why I'm getting the open flash header too. One thing a lot of people haven't talked about (including the beta testers) is how awesome the drag reduction is. I often will accelerate without activating the esc (wife is not a huge fan of all that awesome torque) but the drag reduction actually adds power to the stock car. It's great. I'm sure the header will help with this nice little power booster for everyday driving.

Indeed! How could I forget about the hidden gem that is DR. That + e85 + OFH and cruising is going to very nice. If my eCharger complete's its' trip and is delivered by this weekend let me know if there's room in that tune party you, @nlowell , and @shiv have going on and I'll swing down from O.C. to join. Understandable if 3 is a crowd however.

[Luckrider]

Originally Posted by fenton

I have the hardware version which basically dials back the motor rpm when a set boost pressure is exceeded. It works in a pinch but a tune is really the ultimate compliment to this product.

In the end I'm hoping that Rob can implement the smarts into the firmware of the controller to control the boost.

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I think someone needs to set out to grab direct readings from the accelerator pedal sensor. Imagine having DR thrown away in favor of a tuned DR that scales based on throttle input. The principal has been around for a while implemented in the form of a throttle response boosting device like this http://www.sprintboostersales.com/whyitworks.cfm

[fenton]

Originally Posted by nlowell

We have a similar setup.
I'm auto with OFH, OFT, nameless carted down/overpipe, nvidia Q300, and e85.

My header and Phantom ESC should both arrive this week (already have the batteries)

Shiv is going to head down to SD and tune me and Sojhinn at the same time (both with ESCs). Not sure when he's coming down yet but I would think that should produce a pretty close tune for you.

I'm really excited to see how your guys autos are going to be with the phantom. You guys have to take a video because I think it is going to be really fast.... Plus seamless shifts with boost.... It's gonna be nice

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[fenton]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

I agree in a lot of ways, that's why I'm getting the open flash header too. One thing a lot of people haven't talked about (including the beta testers) is how awesome the drag reduction is. I often will accelerate without activating the esc (wife is not a huge fan of all that awesome torque) but the drag reduction actually adds power to the stock car. It's great. I'm sure the header will help with this nice little power booster for everyday driving.

I love the drag reduction. Gives you a nice little bump in the tq dip. I ran for about a month without it and DR really makes a huge difference. Definitely a ingenious idea to give the ft86 a boost where it needed it!

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[VR46]

Installation was successful, all the parts fit as expected so no differences for the AT. I made a bit of mess of drilling out the rivets from the intake resonator, but luckily the cap that goes over the opening hides my crappy work perfectly. I had a little bit of difficulty fishing the wires from the driver's footwell to the passenger side, but I got it done eventually. I'm not the most mechanically inclined person, so it's good news that I was able to get this done without any major problems. It took me a little over 2 hours to install.

[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by VR46

Installation was successful, all the parts fit as expected so no differences for the AT. I made a bit of mess of drilling out the rivets from the intake resonator, but luckily the cap that goes over the opening hides my crappy work perfectly. I had a little bit of difficulty fishing the wires from the driver's footwell to the passenger side, but I got it done eventually. I'm not the most mechanically inclined person, so it's good news that I was able to get this done without any major problems. It took me a little over 2 hours to install.

Is the pipe to the airbox a smidge too long or does the snail not look slightly off-center?

[silent runner]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

I agree in a lot of ways, that's why I'm getting the open flash header too. One thing a lot of people haven't talked about (including the beta testers) is how awesome the drag reduction is. I often will accelerate without activating the esc (wife is not a huge fan of all that awesome torque) but the drag reduction actually adds power to the stock car. It's great. I'm sure the header will help with this nice little power booster for everyday driving.

I'm beta tester Camry 24V/3.0LV-6, and even I will add to this... the drag reduction feature, woops-up even my torque, and basic engine power, even before WOT. I had to learn to punch the pedal a little more gently in regular driving. It still surprises me that you guys are working so hard for more out of this system, but I guess it the nature of the cars power and drivers.

My simple, single battery pack, TQ250-24V, Phantomcharger, has yanked my old automatic Camry from 0-60 times of around 8.5 seconds, to the best times I have been able to measure on our currently scketchy roads of <6.5 seconds. (this is with traction issues in 1st and 2nd gear). Second gear runs to 75mph at 6200rpm. This is also with the batteries chilled to about -20C, (mounted in the fender well, not the engine bay) and certainly not putting out the current they will under warmer condition.

I'm abolutely thrilled with this basic set-up, any more and I might start getting worried about breaking the car.

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by Boxer486

Is the pipe to the airbox a smidge too long or does the snail not look slightly off-center?

The fitment has always been like that. So I'd call it just right for now.

From Fenton's initial installation on 06/25/13
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=86


VR46 's installation 02/08/14

[fenton]

Originally Posted by VR46

Installation was successful, all the parts fit as expected so no differences for the AT. I made a bit of mess of drilling out the rivets from the intake resonator, but luckily the cap that goes over the opening hides my crappy work perfectly. I had a little bit of difficulty fishing the wires from the driver's footwell to the passenger side, but I got it done eventually. I'm not the most mechanically inclined person, so it's good news that I was able to get this done without any major problems. It took me a little over 2 hours to install.

What did you run across to the passenger side? Not the wot switch?

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