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Old 02-07-2014, 02:02 PM   #15
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Take your BMW to a CarMax and see what they'll offer you and then present that to the dealer.
Sadly we don't have a carmax in Tallahassee
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:04 PM   #16
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Don't let the dealers fool you. They won't give the best price on your trade in, sadly that's just how dealers work. However, Jan/Feb is a great time to buy. You should search around for left over 2013 models on both the Prius C and the FR-S.

I got a Prius base model for $19k out the door last February. Prius C's were even cheaper. They needed to get rid of the 2012 models to bring in the 2013's. Then in June I bought my FR-S for $23k out the door and it had several upgrades, but it was one of 3 2013's they had left (they still have the other two and they're going for cheap, but they're Argento and Hot Lava).
Did you buy in ATL? I would seriously drive up there if they had great deals like that.. And I figured this be a great time to buy for that reason that they are trying to get rid of 2013's...

It's not like the car is any diffrent anyways..
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:07 PM   #17
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Just because your car is worth $x on trade does not guarantee that a dealer will pay what you want for it. They only buy trades to mark them up and turn a profit. How much profit exactly depends on their greed. The only way to get the full value back out of your car is to sell it yourself. If you trade it in, the loss you will take is the price you pay for that convenience.
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I'm not asking them to sale me an FRS for 10k, I'm asking them to take in the fact that I am buying two cars, and giving them a BMW. So the least they can do is give me 14-15k for my BMW, because I know for a fact that they are gonna turn around and sale it for 3-4k more.
That's not how used cars are bought as a "trade-in".

The whole point of that process is to take a good running vehicle off your hands, and YOU the buyer won't have to go through the process of trying to sell it on your own.

The dealer often will just take the car and sell it on the wholesale market to other used car dealers.

Trade-in value is usually a lot less than what you'd see on the private seller used car market, especially if the car is not something the dealer sells new originally.

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Don't let the dealers fool you. They won't give the best price on your trade in, sadly that's just how dealers work. However, Jan/Feb is a great time to buy. You should search around for left over 2013 models on both the Prius C and the FR-S.

I got a Prius base model for $19k out the door last February. Prius C's were even cheaper. They needed to get rid of the 2012 models to bring in the 2013's. Then in June I bought my FR-S for $23k out the door and it had several upgrades, but it was one of 3 2013's they had left (they still have the other two and they're going for cheap, but they're Argento and Hot Lava).

If he does trade in he pays less in taxes. This can make it worth trading in for less than the "best" price.
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If he does trade in he pays less in taxes. This can make it worth trading in for less than the "best" price.
Yup, this can make it worth trading in (as opposed to selling private which can be a huge pain).

OP - Yes, this was at Cherokee County Toyota north of Atlanta.
They still have a few 2013 FR-S... and as I said they still have the two that were there when I bought mine in June. I believe they have been there since the FR-S was released. So they really will want to offload them.

Internet price shows them at $23k MT and $24 AT. I'm sure they'd knock off more, say offer them $22k out the door.
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A great bargaining chip I've found is a carmax appraisal. Have your trade in appraised, wait for toyota to tell you what they will give you for your trade and then pull it out if it's less than carmax. Once the deal is all said and you have their "best price." Walk out.
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Yup, this can make it worth trading in (as opposed to selling private which can be a huge pain).

OP - Yes, this was at Cherokee County Toyota north of Atlanta.
They still have a few 2013 FR-S... and as I said they still have the two that were there when I bought mine in June. I believe they have been there since the FR-S was released. So they really will want to offload them.

Internet price shows them at $23k MT and $24 AT. I'm sure they'd knock off more, say offer them $22k out the door.

damn 23k for the MT? that's awesome.. I"m so upset that the dealer here tried to tell me it was not negotiable
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Sell the BMW to a private party for $16k and it should go quick if that's really below blue book value, then go to the dealer with cash and you just got the FRS for $10-11k like you wanted.
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