Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[Target70]

fair enough, I would like to agree with you. It would be great If it came with the relay, and quick connectors already installed. But look at it like this, you have to buy the batteries yourself, you have to get the tune yourself, and you need those for the system to work. The relay is optional. I can't see it being cheaper having to pay the overhead of 1 person buying and shipping all the components to himself, only to have to pay to ship them all out to the customer.
Maybe Rob just want's to concentrate on putting out a functional kit, and probably recouping some of his R&D. This is the first run of consumer product. Lots of input, changes, opinions, and new data coming in all the time, I wouldn't blame him if he just wants to start out by providing proof of concept products, and worrying about options later. Personally I think someone should help make a FAQ, (as it's still in development at the website) I thought about getting it started, but I am too ignorant about the product.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Target70

fair enough, I would like to agree with you. It would be great If it came with the relay, and quick connectors already installed. But look at it like this, you have to buy the batteries yourself, you have to get the tune yourself, and you need those for the system to work. The relay is optional. I can't see it being cheaper having to pay the overhead of 1 person buying and shipping all the components to himself, only to have to pay to ship them all out to the customer.
Maybe Rob just want's to concentrate on putting out a functional kit, and probably recouping some of his R&D. This is the first run of consumer product. Lots of input, changes, opinions, and new data coming in all the time, I wouldn't blame him if he just wants to start out by providing proof of concept products, and worrying about options later. Personally I think someone should help make a FAQ, (as it's still in development at the website) I thought about getting it started, but I am too ignorant about the product.

Good points here target. As you have said this is Robs first run and all new opinions will be coming in soon.

I'm glad you brought up the FAQ because that is a great idea. I'll start building one up with all the main questions that get asked.

Thanks,

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[raven1231]

Originally Posted by fenton

Good points here target. As you have said this is Robs first run and all new opinions will be coming in soon.

I'm glad you brought up the FAQ because that is a great idea. I'll start building one up with all the main questions that get asked.

Thanks,

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Agreed all of this makes the kit flexible to your needs and saves on unnecessary shipping fees...

[Robftss]

At over $2000 with batteries and a tune, who cares about $5 for a relay?[/QUOTE]

Yes, I did provide a simple 5 dollar DIY solution for the time being.

[Robftss]

Originally Posted by silent runner

I'm a spoiled "beta tester". Today, I went out around and totally destroyed a 5.7L, V-8 Toyota Tundra Pick-up that was diddling around in the merge lane in one of our local free-way style roads at 35mph. Kind of like trying to step out into traffic going 30mph on a city street with only a few feet in between the traffic... He, with 1/2 mile of merge lane remaining, decided to pull onto the freeway at 35mph. I held my right foot down and smoked past him like he was standing still, never interupting the traffic flow, and causing any problems. He on the other hand, only decide to hit it when I did, but I still washed by him like he was driving an old VW diesel, and caused a hole lot of people to have to smack their brakes and cause issues. I would have been caught in that little fray if I couldn't safely merge around him into the flow of traffic.

I love my beta Phantomcharger! A new safety device for good drivers.
This was at -24, on the celcius scale by the way, and evrything is still running perfectly!

My congratulations to Rob on becoming an official vendor on this sight, you guys have worked long and hard to do the tech, to measure and test it, and finally to make it accessible to us. This is going to be a revolution in power modding technology like nothing we have ever seen before. I hope my little piece will add some fun to another segment of this revolution!

3.0L24v Camry

Yeah, it comes in handy. Thanks!

[jwSubMOA]

Before I order this setup I have a question. My 13 BRZ limited is an automatic with complete Perrin non catted, no resonated exhaust, Perrin intake and Revworks header. Will I have any issues getting an OFT tune without going physically to a tuner? Are there concerns with the system on an auto?

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by jwSubMOA

Before I order this setup I have a question. My 13 BRZ limited is an automatic with complete Perrin non catted, no resonated exhaust, Perrin intake and Revworks header. Will I have any issues getting an OFT tune without going physically to a tuner? Are there concerns with the system on an auto?

I believe one person just started running the system with an auto, and I know next week someone near me will be running the system on their automatic.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by jwSubMOA

Before I order this setup I have a question. My 13 BRZ limited is an automatic with complete Perrin non catted, no resonated exhaust, Perrin intake and Revworks header. Will I have any issues getting an OFT tune without going physically to a tuner? Are there concerns with the system on an auto?

This is a good question. You have a lot of mods, im not worried about any of the exhaust mods however when talking about intakes things get a little tricky. The BRZ intake is extremely fine tuned, as soon as you add a aftermarket intake you usually have to retune to get the best performance out of it. That being said ThaTruth ran the perrin intake and it worked fine, it just didnt really make any additional gains.

I see two options:

1. Get a ecutek protune or if shiv is willing to, a OFT pro tune.

2. Install stock intake, sell perrin and run OFT, the revworks and open flash header are both catless and unequal length so the tunes should be close at least.


I think this questions is better answered by @shiv@vishnu..... what would you recommend in this case shiv?


The one thing we are lucky about is our boost is not controlled by exhaust flow so the whole catless/2.5"/3" has no bearing on the overboost as it would in a turbo setup.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by fenton

This is a good question. You have a lot of mods, im not worried about any of the exhaust mods however when talking about intakes things get a little tricky. The BRZ intake is extremely fine tuned, as soon as you add a aftermarket intake you usually have to retune to get the best performance out of it.



I see two options:



1. Get a ecutek protune or if shiv is willing to, a OFT pro tune.



2. Install stock intake, sell perrin and run OFT, the revworks and open flash header are both catless and unequal length so the tunes should be close at least.





I think this questions is better answered by @shiv@vishnu..... what would you recommend in this case shiv?





The one thing we are lucky about is our boost is not controlled by exhaust flow so the whole catless/2.5"/3" has no bearing on the overboost as it would in a turbo setup.

What I have seen most recommendations go is sell your intake towards the cost of the esc. Intakes are pretty worthless in this car. (In my humble opinion)

[jflogerzi]

I am also wondering if an EL will make better power up top in HP/TQ vs UEL. Main advantage to the UEL was the removal of the TQ dip but with the ECS thats no longer a problem.

[SloS14]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

I am also wondering if an EL will make better power up top in HP/TQ vs UEL.

My guess would be a negligible amount at most.

[Luckrider]

Based on what @shiv@vishnu was saying, I doubt it. His testing showed better torque dip reduction on UEL headers which is why he changed from EL to UEL.

[fenton]

Originally Posted by Luckrider

Based on what @shiv@vishnu was saying, I doubt it. His testing showed better torque dip reduction on UEL headers which is why he changed from EL to UEL.

That's shat he's saying though. Why focus on the tq dip when you are already going to obliterate it with the ecs.

I think both are going to result in very similar performance regardless.

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[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by fenton

That's shat he's saying though. Why focus on the tq dip when you are already going to obliterate it with the ecs.

I think both are going to result in very similar performance regardless.

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Yeah, an efficient EL design vs UEL design is probably more a difference in sound quality than anything.

What I'd like to see is unbiased back to back dynos of the ESC with and without the OFH.