Track guys: What would you like to see CSG test?

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Open ended question.

I'll take the popular submissions up with the boss.

I would like to see some laptimes, G force, and top speed numbers for functional downforce adders like a front splitter and a rear diffuser.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by kster1

I'd be interested in seeing aerodynamic parts on the front and rear of the car and their impact on lap times. The Voltex rear wing would be a good start to see what it does alone, and then again compared with some aero help in the front.

Voltex wings without front aero will make the car push hardcore. We sell Voltex and it works, but it's out of our budget for the time being.

Originally Posted by 7thgear

i'd like to see the car on a set of high end coilovers, tuned perfectly for the car, but at OEM ride height. No 3rd party aero.

I'm convinced that modiying the springrate slightly for balance, while maintaining a long damper travel with state of the art dampening will yield a grippy car (if driven right) assuming street tires and no aero.

That makes no sense. Keeping the car at stock height means you'll have no droop travel unless you're using REALLY low spring rates. Then you get terrible transition times from the roll travel. A way overdamped car will ride like crap, and still be faster around a track.

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Robispec front LCAs

They reduce weight...

Originally Posted by smbstyle

second the turbo idea, just to see how it holds up compared to the JR kit, and then some real world aero testing.

I'd like a good track tire comparison with data (got an AIM solo or something?)

Tire comparison... already been done.

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/8391...s-dunlop-z1ss/

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

That makes no sense. Keeping the car at stock height means you'll have no droop travel unless you're using REALLY low spring rates. Then you get terrible transition times from the roll travel. A way overdamped car will ride like crap, and still be faster around a track.

so OEM car in it's stock form has no droop travel? How in the world did it get voted best driving car then :/


I don't mean to use short shocks for this, get something like B6's, valved to something from GC lets say, corner balanced and kept at around oem height.

[ImperiousRex]

Originally Posted by King Tut

How much power would you say you lose from the start of the lap to the end of the lap with that turbo?

I'm going to be posting something very soon in my build journal that shows exactly what's going on with the heat soak. I meant to post it a few weeks ago but I've been working with Mike and Evasive on getting several solutions to keep the engine bay temps down and they just wrapped up yesterday and we'll be testing them on track this weekend. So keep an eye out for my journal update

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by ImperiousRex

I'm going to be posting something very soon in my build journal that shows exactly what's going on with the heat soak. I meant to post it a few weeks ago but I've been working with Mike and Evasive on getting several solutions to keep the engine bay temps down and they just wrapped up yesterday and we'll be testing them on track this weekend. So keep an eye out for my journal update

Shall I schedule some more dyno time?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

so OEM car in it's stock form has no droop travel? How in the world did it get voted best driving car then :/


I don't mean to use short shocks for this, get something like B6's, valved to something from GC lets say, corner balanced and kept at around oem height.

I'm just saying with OEM height and near-oem spring rates, there's just no benefit. You'll gain a ton of ride quality, but minimal performance.

[ImperiousRex]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Shall I schedule some more dyno time?

Only if I can hit a 1:26 at streets - otherwise it's back to the drawing board!

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by ImperiousRex

Only if I can hit a 1:26 at streets - otherwise it's back to the drawing board!

Fresh tire time?

[smbstyle]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Tire comparison... already been done.

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/8391...s-dunlop-z1ss/

I wanna see NT01 vs Hankook TD!

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by smbstyle

I wanna see NT01 vs Hankook TD!

TD's are faster... and drop off faster, and overheat faster.

No way I can justify $1600 in consumables to the boss strictly to see which is faster, when we already know the answer

[smbstyle]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

TD's are faster... and drop off faster, and overheat faster.

No way I can justify $1600 in consumables to the boss strictly to see which is faster, when we already know the answer

Don't let him know you already know........

I'm out of ideas. lol

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by smbstyle

Don't let him know you already know........

I'm out of ideas. lol

Boss already knows that too... I dare say he probably knows most of what I know. Difference is I put down faster lap times.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Reaper

splitter and aero testing, whatever the most inexpensive BBK is right now and if a vented hood is better than a radiator and oil cooler

Originally Posted by 7thgear

what does that even mean

To @Reaper:

The money spent on a BBK is better spent if one were to purchase high quality brake fluid and pads (for track purposes), as well as investment in better tires.

That would make a much larger difference, even if you went with a $1k brake kit.

-alex

[Reaper]

Yes i understand that. I was reffering to ap vs stoptech vs oem sti brembos.