Those with 240 wbhp wish they had more, like closer to 300 wbhp?

[LBC Por Siempre]

I ask this question because 240 wbhp seems to be a standard "round about number" after a super charger has been installed. That and are most of you with these results feel that 240 is a good and fine number, like the car 'for my driving about needs' doesn't require anymore?

Like I have stated on other forum postings in the F/I sub forum I've been maddened by trying to get at least 300 wbhp by the time I'm finished. But let me take a step back here, do I really need 300 or will 240 be just fine for me? I dunno, perhaps I should do it in stages while taking care of my brakes, coilovers and others. For me handling is of paramount importance, it's a higher priority than the engine by itself. A car is a living machine where every "Bob and Bit" is as important as the next.

By the way this is a little off topic but does anyone know how much a typical Super Charger takes away from the motor, robs - steals to take from the engine to make the extra power. After all Super Chargers are are parasitic And they require a bit of power from the engine to make power. So at stock we are getting near about's 165wbhp to make 240 wbhp. Which i figure to be damn good. But not talking the whole machine that produces the power, there is a lot more going into making a 300 S/C car.
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[swift996]

My initial goal was 280-300whp but I'm happy with where I'm at. I plan to dyno next week. I get my cat-back in tomorrow. I should be north of 250whp. I'm fine with it because the car is so well balanced with that power. Sure, more power is always cool. I guess it just depends on your goals. I came from a 911 (996) and a M3 (e46) so I wanted something pretty close in speed. I'm almost there but the car is more fun IMO. I don't know how this car would feel with another 50hp or so. I don't know how well it will handle it in certain situations.

My fun is on backroads and a few track days. I'm very well set-up for it. Sure cars will be faster but I'm having a lot of fun.

[xxscaxx]

I'm hoping to be around 300whp with flex fuel on my innovate sc, but honestly right now the car is so fun and i'm completely content with it if I had to stay at this level. I'm on the smaller pulley and intercooler though.

Its honestly user preference. I came from a 370whp/370tq STi. Car was very fast, but this thing is just enough to be fun everyday when i'm driving around, and not enough to make it a pain to drive around town. Don't get me wrong, more power would be great but I can't imagine pinning the throttle and just spinning wheel. That will happen to me from time to time, but wheres the fun in that? All that does is stroke the ego and put on a show for other people lol.

I've had friends tell me "you won't be happy, you will want more power". Maybe they are right. If that happens down the road, guess what, i'll take off the SC, sell it, and get something else. Thats what makes car modding fun anyways. My car will never be finished, even if I keep it forever, or end up selling it, lol.

[sklimo]

I'm at 264whp with Jackson Racing SC. I still haven't pushed her hard cuz on snow tires, but car is crazy quick. Another 36hp would be cool, but I don't think it's needed.

Now watch me change my mind when I put on my summer wheels and tires lol

[King Tut]

With the factory tires coming in at 215 width and the fenders only allowing a 265-275 width tire to be mounted I feel like 300+ whp and 250+ ft/lbs is the sweet spot for this car. If you want to run less tire, then I would recommend running less power. That is all assuming you enjoy grip and not tire smoke.

[CSG Mike]

Rather than peak power, we'll be focusing on increasing the overall powerband

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Rather than peak power, we'll be focusing on increasing the overall powerband

Should have gotten a turbo then.

[enwave]

@CSG Mike that's what I'm interested in. Part of why I love this platform is the NA linear (relatively) power band. Boost is fun and everything, but the more torque I can get down low, the happier I'll be in my car. Because of that I may consider that crazy ESC.

*ducks and dodges the flames*

But honestly, for autocross (which is what I mostly enjoy) the closer I can stay to a linear power band the better.


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[swift996]

Torque is fun:

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by enwave

@CSG Mike that's what I'm interested in. Part of why I love this platform is the NA linear (relatively) power band. Boost is fun and everything, but the more torque I can get down low, the happier I'll be in my car.

If a linear horsepower curve is what you want, then you will need a turbo setup that can get up to your target PSI at the lowest RPM possible and maintain that all the way to redline creating a flat torque curve.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by swift996

Torque is fun:

More torque is more fun:

[enwave]

Originally Posted by King Tut

If a linear horsepower curve is what you want, then you will need a turbo setup that can get up to your target PSI at the lowest RPM possible and maintain that all the way to redline creating a flat torque curve.

Yep. Boost for me will have to be very calculated and likely relatively conservative with either a smaller turbine or an outside power source (ESC).


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[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by sklimo

Now watch me change my mind when I put on my summer wheels and tires lol

I guarantee it. The grip increase will offset the power.

Originally Posted by King Tut

Should have gotten a turbo then.

[jamesm]

it doesn't matter if you start with 240 or 300, you'll always get bored and want more in due time.