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Old 02-02-2014, 02:35 PM   #43
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You said you had a 321 uppipe on your subi for years and it looked great? Did Shiv sell that to you?
Yes, we manufactured his up-pipe. Along with a thousand more over the years. Good to hear the car was rocking for such a long time
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Old 02-02-2014, 02:35 PM   #44
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You said you had a 321 uppipe on your subi for years and it looked great? Did Shiv sell that to you?
Yeah. He had power packages for the WRX a long time ago and that was part of one of them I think. It was a solid piece. It's probably still kicking around in someones WRX now.
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Wondering, is the first batch being shipped tomorrow? Or at least this week? And when will the recipients be notified that they can expect them?
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Old 02-02-2014, 03:48 PM   #46
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Wondering, is the first batch being shipped tomorrow? Or at least this week? And when will the recipients be notified that they can expect them?
The international orders on the first batch were shipping on Friday. The remaining domestic orders are shipping on Monday. To see if you are in the first batch, shoot an email to sales@vishnutuning.com and they can give you details. I am told the second batch of units will be coming towards the end of this upcoming week. I'll update this thread with more info as it comes in.
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Old 02-02-2014, 04:33 PM   #47
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My current exhaust setup is FA20Club Equal Length Catted Header (coated), Perrin Overpipe, Nameless Performance Front Pipe with Catalytic converter and Helmholtz Resonator, Stock Catback exhaust , Perrin Tips, Datalogging of current setup at bottom
Running OFT Stage 2 EL header Gas 1.54 which performs extremely well, smoother, quieter (makes me question selling the Perrin CBE), quicker.
Recently removed and sold to "DaBRZ" a Perrin Catback exhaust, it was too loud with this header.
"Neutron256" has my Perrin Catted Front Pipe that displayed a drone with this header.
With this system in mind, will I see gains and/or be better off with your UEL header?
How much louder or differently will it sound?
I'm considering a purchase from FA20club for their uncatted header pipe, replacing my FA20club catted header pipe. Is your UEL header a better option?

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Our UEL header will certainly outperform any catted header since eliminating the cat is where most of the gains come from. The rest (runner length/configuration) has more to do with sound and looks than anything else. Adding a catless header to a car with no secondary cat will make the car sound quite a bit louder and also a bit stinkier. But as long as you keep the stock (or free flow) secondary cat in the front pipe, you'll be happy with the sound.
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Old 02-02-2014, 04:47 PM   #48
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Who cares? The differences between the Revworks, JDL, OF and Borla UEL headers is mostly in the quality of the construction, materials, flex joints, collector and warranty. They all look about the same. They all seem to have good shop support. OF being unknown at this point but Shiv generally has a decent rep. He's been around forever compared to alot of the jokers that claim to be tuners on this forum. Shiv tuned my 02' wrx back in the day and it was solid. Had his 321 uppipe on that car for 9 years and when I took it off, it still looked new.
Exactly, that is the conclusion I'd made after looking at the other uel headers, which is why I am very curious how he came up with his claim.
Other than that, slandering just isn't cool. If you are going to make accusations, make sure you have good reasons.
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Exactly, that is the conclusion I'd made after looking at the other uel headers, which is why I am very curious how he came up with his claim.
Other than that, slandering just isn't cool. If you are going to make accusations, make sure you have good reasons.
It's fine. I don't think anyone reasonable would consider the OFH to be a rip off of the Borla header. I haven't even seen a Borla header in person. Only the pics that have been posted online. Definitely wasn't a benchmark for us.
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It's fine. I don't think anyone reasonable would consider the OFH to be a rip off of the Borla header. I haven't even seen a Borla header in person. Only the pics that have been posted online. Definitely wasn't a benchmark for us.
You said you finished a project that someone else started so I wouldn't state that you copied borla, nor would you have had to have one in possession to finish a product. But anyone that states that it isn't very close to the borla header after the fact the o2 sensors are in the exact same position & angle, and the runners are pretty much identical is blind. Mind you I am not trying to say this is bad... But if you take a good look at the photos and multiple angles the collector on both headers looks about the width of the flange and everything else. They however are manufactured differently, and borla did have a pretty poor collector early on (I have NO idea how it is now).

Basically it looks like a borla with an o2 extension, no flexes, and welded bends instead of pre-bent pipes and a nicer finish for a few bucks less. (If you have an OFT)
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You said you finished a project that someone else started so I wouldn't state that you copied borla, nor would you have had to have one in possession to finish a product. But anyone that states that it isn't very close to the borla header after the fact the o2 sensors are in the exact same position & angle, and the runners are pretty much identical is blind. Mind you I am not trying to say this is bad... But if you take a good look at the photos and multiple angles the collector on both headers looks about the width of the flange and everything else. They however are manufactured differently, and borla did have a pretty poor collector early on (I have NO idea how it is now).

Basically it looks like a borla with an o2 extension, no flexes, and welded bends instead of pre-bent pipes and a nicer finish for a few bucks less. (If you have an OFT)
With better construction and materials and a OTS tune to maximize it. Looks like a very easy choice to pick between the two. The routing of the tubing and position of the bungs and collectors is near identical. Not sure about the runner diameters.
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You said you finished a project that someone else started so I wouldn't state that you copied borla, nor would you have had to have one in possession to finish a product. But anyone that states that it isn't very close to the borla header after the fact the o2 sensors are in the exact same position & angle, and the runners are pretty much identical is blind. Mind you I am not trying to say this is bad... But if you take a good look at the photos and multiple angles the collector on both headers looks about the width of the flange and everything else. They however are manufactured differently, and borla did have a pretty poor collector early on (I have NO idea how it is now).

Basically it looks like a borla with an o2 extension, no flexes, and welded bends instead of pre-bent pipes and a nicer finish for a few bucks less. (If you have an OFT)
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You said you finished a project that someone else started so I wouldn't state that you copied borla, nor would you have had to have one in possession to finish a product. But anyone that states that it isn't very close to the borla header after the fact the o2 sensors are in the exact same position & angle, and the runners are pretty much identical is blind. Mind you I am not trying to say this is bad... But if you take a good look at the photos and multiple angles the collector on both headers looks about the width of the flange and everything else. They however are manufactured differently, and borla did have a pretty poor collector early on (I have NO idea how it is now).

Basically it looks like a borla with an o2 extension, no flexes, and welded bends instead of pre-bent pipes and a nicer finish for a few bucks less. (If you have an OFT)
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Our UEL header will certainly outperform any catted header since eliminating the cat is where most of the gains come from. The rest (runner length/configuration) has more to do with sound and looks than anything else. Adding a catless header to a car with no secondary cat will make the car sound quite a bit louder and also a bit stinkier. But as long as you keep the stock (or free flow) secondary cat in the front pipe, you'll be happy with the sound.
Looks good...

You may want to add your 91 octane and E85 dyno pics to the 1st page for the newbies who don't search older threads.

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Hi Shiv. If I'm going to order OFH today or this week (I'm an OFT owner), how long would it be available?
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