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Old 01-16-2014, 11:03 AM   #99
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I spent $27K on my BRZ Limited.
Yup, same here. That's the difference between the Scion and Subaru that REALLY matters.
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Old 01-16-2014, 02:01 PM   #100
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Man, I can't stand leather with alcantara inserts and dual climate controls…

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Old 01-16-2014, 02:12 PM   #101
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Yeah that is why I went with my FRS for only $25k. I wanted to have that extra $3-5k I would have spent on dealership upgrade - but instead use on aftermarket upgrades since aftermarket is typically better, especially when it comes to NAV, audio, etc. PLUS I hold the belief that there is more likely to go wrong when you have too many gadgets and tech stuff. Simple = better.
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Old 01-16-2014, 02:14 PM   #102
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Man, I can't stand leather with alcantara inserts and dual climate controls…

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I said that on page 4.
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Old 01-16-2014, 02:17 PM   #103
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Nice, 'Ownage'. Take a seat \_ Turbo95eg6

:P just kidding by the way

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Old 01-16-2014, 02:27 PM   #104
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Man, I can't stand leather with alcantara inserts and dual climate controls…

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Look man, the auto climate adds two more buttons to the console. Not everyone can handle that responsibility or wants the added weight.
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Old 01-16-2014, 03:06 PM   #105
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Everyone wants to have extra bells and whistles on their car, why not factory quality that was designed for the car. If everyone went for the base model, then there would be no WRX or STI version of the Impreze, or An Evo or MR version of the Lancer. Same thing with other Brands. Don't get me wrong I enjoy the base the model and the upgrade versions too, and i see the value in going for the normal version, but everyone likes to upgrade whether it better lights, seats, or performance on their car or sprinkles and fudge on their Ice cream... it helps to have options.
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Old 01-16-2014, 03:18 PM   #106
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Depends on how your theory of cars should be. Do you want the "base" model with all your own upgrades, or do you want the most upgrades as delivered?

I fall in the latter category - I'll take a cheaper car fully equipped with all available stock upgrades anyday over a luxury model that has all those standard.

My Impreza Sport Limited ended up costing almost as much as my BRZ Limited because I equipped it with nearly max options from the factory - but when compared to the "base" model on visual approach and the seating/entertainment experience of mine vs. the base impreza is a very different experience.

It just depends on your bias, and hell, it's your dime. Why grouse about how much other people are paying if they want it?

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Old 01-16-2014, 03:21 PM   #107
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Yeah that is why I went with my FRS for only $25k. I wanted to have that extra $3-5k I would have spent on dealership upgrade - but instead use on aftermarket upgrades since aftermarket is typically better, especially when it comes to NAV, audio, etc. PLUS I hold the belief that there is more likely to go wrong when you have too many gadgets and tech stuff. Simple = better.
You say you'd rather spend the 3-5k for aftermarket upgrades like NAV and audio, and then contradict it by saying simple=better because more thngs are bound to go wrong when you have more stuff lol

And anyone who's done the math knows that it costs a lot more than 3k to get the frs to where the brz is at in terms of bells and whistles.

Either way, people like options and OP is obviously one of the people that want the lightest possible configuration for the car. Nothing wrong with that, and they'd probably get the RC trim if we got it here. Personally I prefer having all the bells and whistles like the push start and heated seats as this is my only car and they just make the car easier to live with.
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I went for a brz because the subaru badge is a flat rounded design making it more aerodynamic / faster. Scion and toyota badge is nice but has too many lines and openings. Unnecessary down force. Thats the only reason why I spend the extra dough. Leather, navi and other goods don't care for.
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I said that on page 4.
Obviously, my comment was directed towards you. You seem like like the guy that doesn't get along with anyone at social gatherings, priding yourself on how much you hate everything.
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Well I actually didn't contradict myself - because I haven't spent any money on those upgrades. What I meant is that I left myself room to do so if and when I choose to. I just didn't word it well and I didn't include that small detail. My apologies :P

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At least Toyobaru doesn't charge extra for FEWER options. Look at the Cayman R. Less weight means no options that most models come standard with ... and you pay MORE for less. I understand that the Cayman R is track focused, but it does get ridiculous with the pricing.
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Look man, the auto climate adds two more buttons to the console. Not everyone can handle that responsibility or wants the added weight.
Actually.. It's what you can't see where the weight and complexity come into play. There are servos and motors that operate the airflow/temp behind the dash.. Dual climate in such a small car doesn't make much sense to me.
So it's nice to have choices..
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