Nub question about hid lights

[F1fletch]

This has provided some really good information. I have a couple questions. Can we convert to bi-zenon with an LED drl and if so, who makes that kit with all the wiring etc?

[SkAsphalt]

Originally Posted by trevorovert

3 ways

1 - New bulb. Cheap. <$50

2 - HID Projectors. Basically just add more power to a new bulb. Horrible, disgusting, unreliable, worthless, rice. IMO. at least. $100-$120

3 - Full retrofit. Won't blind people. ~$300 and some of your time. Fun and easy to do.


6000k to me is quite blue, and I am not a fan of it. Pure white, 5000k, highly recommended

Do a full retrofit. theretrofitsource.com.

I know you meant well, but your 3 steps of "information" are just going to confuse everyone. As you just state bulbs, projectors (as being bad) and a retro fit kit, without explaining what that is, I will clean it up for ya.

1. Purchase new, higher quality HALOGEN bulbs, replace factory bulbs = <$70
2. Purchase a HID ballast&Bulb "Plug and play (PnP)" kit, install PnP to replace factory halogen bulbs = <$170
3. Purchase a proper retrofit kit which includes ballasts, bulbs, AND proper projectors, requires opening the headlight and replacing the factory bulb and projectors = <$170-400

[SkAsphalt]

Originally Posted by F1fletch

This has provided some really good information. I have a couple questions. Can we convert to bi-zenon with an LED drl and if so, who makes that kit with all the wiring etc?

I run Bi-Xenon with a LED DRL

Retrofit a bi-xenon projector into the stock location, swapped DRL bulb for a LED.

[86-tundra]

Originally Posted by SkAsphalt

I know you meant well but your 3 steps of "information" are just going to confuse everyone because you just confuse him by stating bulbs, projectors (as being bad) and a retro fit kit, without explaining what that is.

1. Purchase new, higher quality HALOGEN bulbs, replace factory bulbs = <$70
2. Purchase a HID ballast&Bulb "Plug and play (PnP)" kit, install PnP to replace factory halogen bulbs = <$170
3. Purchase a proper retrofit kit which includes ballasts, bulbs, AND proper projectors, requires opening the headlight and replacing the factory bulb and projectors = <$170-400

Touche, thanks for clearing that up

[SkAsphalt]

Originally Posted by suaveflooder

lol, not attacking you personally so please don't take offense, but comments like this seem so dramatic to me.

Only "cars" I've ever really thought "DAYUM that's bright" are actually trucks. Very rarely will I be "blinded" by a car unless the light is aimed too high. Even without projectors in a regular halogen housing, I've never really had an issue and HID's are EVERYWHERE here in college area.

Almost every non projector headlight with PNP HID kits in there are terrible and blind me at night, does not matter if it is a low sitting car or a high riding truck - non projectors make it INCREDIBLY dangerous. Now for projector headlights with PNP, it can be crappy in cars, but usually more noticeable in ebay projector headlights.

[suaveflooder]

Originally Posted by SkAsphalt

Almost every non projector headlight with PNP HID kits in there are terrible and blind me at night, does not matter if it is a low sitting car or a high riding truck - non projectors make it INCREDIBLY dangerous. Now for projector headlights with PNP, it can be crappy in cars, but usually more noticeable in ebay projector headlights.

Lol. Sorry. Still have yet to be "blinded" by anything other than a truck.

[Moletheus]

This post is getting a little redundant. My Morimoto hid conversion kit looks awesome on my 2014 frs. I HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE TESTING AND THIS UPGRADE DOES NOT "BLIND" PEOPLE! All people have to say in other cars is that it looks great. I have not had one person tell me it blinded them or have a gotten a single flash from oncoming traffic and I have a 30 mile commute to work and back everyday.

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[Poodles]

Originally Posted by Moletheus

I think the picture proves the point that the FRS has nice cutoff lines and that hid conversion kits with no modifications work just fine. Have you even seen an frs with an hid conversion in person? I have seen quite a few (and own one) and even cheap eBay kits offer a significant upgrade to the stock low beams.

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No, it proves nothing. It's too bright and washed out to show much more than a cutoff. Adjusting the image a bit, you can clearly see the "squirrel finders" in that pic, but it's a crappy pic to judge output off of.


This is what a proper pic looks like (not my pic, this guy uses the same spot and the same settings on all the pics he takes so you can properly compare output of various projectors)





One can find better pics of the stock FR-S headlight with HID's elsewhere on these forums showing the light above the cutoff and how narrow the beam is.

[Moletheus]

The picture doesn't matter dude, come on. I own one. I know what it looks like. I have friends that own them. They have all upgraded they're headlights. I have carefully read through most of the hid posts on this forum. I have very clearly seen (in person) the differences before and after stock vs conversion kit vs retrofit. Your negativity does not help anyone.

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[suaveflooder]

Does anyone else think this is kind of a stupid thing to argue about?

[Diode Dynamics]

Originally Posted by suaveflooder

Does anyone else think this is kind of a stupid thing to argue about?

I've seen so many of these threads....

Nick C.

[Moletheus]

I agree no argument is nessisary however, all I'm trying to do is prove the point that my headlights look great and do not blind people. I really should just unsubscribe from this redundant post.

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[Poodles]

Originally Posted by Moletheus

The picture doesn't matter dude, come on. I own one. I know what it looks like. I have friends that own them. They have all upgraded they're headlights. I have carefully read through most of the hid posts on this forum. I have very clearly seen (in person) the differences before and after stock vs conversion kit vs retrofit. Your negativity does not help anyone.

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Says you. If your car was put through the more stringent inspections they do in Europe, the car would fail because of the light being too bright above the cutoff.


Don't be ignorant of the laws and regulations (it's no defense in a court), educate yourself: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-201...sec571-108.pdf

Originally Posted by suaveflooder

Does anyone else think this is kind of a stupid thing to argue about?

No, the safety of myself and other people on the road is pretty important to me.

[Moletheus]

I obviously don't live in Europe. Did you not just read my last post? Have you read and actually soaked up what I am saying? I am very familiar with laws and regulations. I have read through every post on this forum about hid headlights. I am not stupid. I have installed many retrofit kits and many conversion kits. I'll say it one more time, I have in person compared the many headlight differences on this particular car, therefore I am allowed to post my opinions about this topic. You obviously have not worked on, seen one, or own an frs with headlight modifications other than looking at pictures. If you had, you may not be such a troll in this forum.

Safety? As was mentioned before on this same post. In my case and every one of my friends/family that I have asked, the only thing that even comes close to "blinding" you are trucks because they sit higher. Certainly not my car at all. I do not feel like I am jeopardizing anyones safety on the road simply because I have solid proof that I'm not.

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