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RAN94A · 01-08-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Yes, mostly the mismatched revmatches. The clutch (and slack in the drivetrain) absorb the shock of bringing the revs to the appropriate level.

This is why i revmatch/heel & toe every gear shift to minimise that

Malt · 01-08-2014, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rusty959

Hmm. Maybe the resolution is just too high, but I feel like a prettier penny could easily have been found.

Here... I blinged it out for you.

Better?

CK_Bladesmith · 01-08-2014, 10:20 PM

The only thing I dislike about the stock clutch is where it grabs, which for me feels like almost at the top. I much prefer the way the clutch in my 90 fox, near the bottom. Just my 2 cents

rusty959 · 01-08-2014, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Malt

Here... I blinged it out for you.

Better?

Better yes. A nos bottle or two would have really have taken this bet to the next level.

LBC Por Siempre · 01-09-2014, 08:42 AM

And to clarify, I was talking about the Z car for when, I think it was Car & Driver, had one of their Lightning Lap competitions the Z ran off the track under braking because the brake fluid had all ready boiled over on its SECOND LAP. And I can't remember if it was their track edition or what. That was a few years ago.

LBC Por Siempre · 01-09-2014, 10:30 AM

So this posting is an exercise on how most folks don't scale up their brakes, most important, or clutches when modifying their cars.

Because between those two items, those were the ones i would hear about the least. Just remember you're fine with your brakes so long as you don't drive like a nut.

CSG Mike · 01-09-2014, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LBC Por Siempre

And to clarify, I was talking about the Z car for when, I think it was Car & Driver, had one of their Lightning Lap competitions the Z ran off the track under braking because the brake fluid had all ready boiled over on its SECOND LAP. And I can't remember if it was their track edition or what. That was a few years ago.

Press sensationalism at it's best.

Virtually all of the cars tested would suffer the same fate if they ran at a truly fast pace; they're all on stock pads and fluid.

mid_life_crisis · 01-09-2014, 11:55 AM

I mentioned this in another thread and only the other old timers will know what I'm talking about.
This car succeeds at being what the Pontiac Fiero failed at 30 years ago.

Malt · 01-09-2014, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis

I mentioned this in another thread and only the other old timers will know what I'm talking about.
This car succeeds at being what the Pontiac Fiero failed at 30 years ago.

As someone who has owned three fieros and still has an 88 with t-tops with Cadillac V8 in the back, I agree completely with this statement.

jamesm · 01-09-2014, 12:34 PM

I wouldn't track the car on the stock brakes, regardless of any other mods done. Is go for the ap sprint kit and be done with it. Ill at least get pads, lines and fluid before the first time out.

v1ru5 · 01-09-2014, 12:41 PM

I went to VIR for the first time in my life (and any track for that matter) on stock calipers, but with upgraded rotors and pads (and lines and fluid). I was having brake fade 10-15 minutes into a 30 minute session.

I assume having sticky tires, coilovers, and pushing 280whp helped with causing the fade on the back straight and turn one.

I just purchased a Brembo BBK.. I would rather spend the money on brakes then potentially wreck the car or my life

mid_life_crisis · 01-09-2014, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malt

As someone who has owned three fieros and still has an 88 with t-tops with Cadillac V8 in the back, I agree completely with this statement.

Eldorado engine and transaxle?

mid_life_crisis · 01-09-2014, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by moK

Do bad, jerky shifts and mistimed revmatches play a big part in shortening a clutch's life?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Yes, mostly the mismatched revmatches. The clutch (and slack in the drivetrain) absorb the shock of bringing the revs to the appropriate level.

I'm surprised you replied.
I assumed it was a rhetorical question.

z3ro · 01-09-2014, 01:43 PM

I effing hate the brakes on this car......

01-08-2014, 10:20 PM	#31
CK_Bladesmith Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: Raven FR-S Location: Victoria TX Posts: 335 Thanks: 372 Thanked 95 Times in 75 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s)	The only thing I dislike about the stock clutch is where it grabs, which for me feels like almost at the top. I much prefer the way the clutch in my 90 fox, near the bottom. Just my 2 cents __________________ Raven FR-S mods: Unichip, Ground Control street coilovers with camber plates and strut tower brace, SPC Lca's, Drag DR-38 wheels with Dunlop Direzza DZ101s, Perrin CAI and silicone inlet tube, Perrin 3" resonated catback, Perrin high flow catted front pipe, Rev Works UEL header.

01-09-2014, 08:42 AM	#33
LBC Por Siempre Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2008 Toyota Prius, 2012 911 Turbo Location: Long Beach, Bakersfield Posts: 157 Thanks: 3 Thanked 23 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	And to clarify, I was talking about the Z car for when, I think it was Car & Driver, had one of their Lightning Lap competitions the Z ran off the track under braking because the brake fluid had all ready boiled over on its SECOND LAP. And I can't remember if it was their track edition or what. That was a few years ago. Last edited by LBC Por Siempre; 01-09-2014 at 10:24 AM.

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