Monogram series pricing information

[oldpueblo]

Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI

Seriously nobody gives a little more respect to Subaru than Scion? To me, Scion = Toyotas department meant for 20-30yr olds. WOO! SCION! Subaru to me equals history and performance. I'll probably never rebadge mine because us 'Mericans got stuck with the FR-S instead of the GT86 and I'll never find it fair but I won't fake it either. They're not the same and they wouldn't need all these editions if the FRS title never existed.

Scion is Toyota, surprise! When I take my car in it doesn't get serviced by Scion techs. I don't go to a Scion dealership to buy it or to get parts. It's all Toyota. Just think of Scion as a Toyota trim level. And Toyota has plenty of history of their own. Both good companies with different pros/cons.

[AznBRZer]

Originally Posted by trevorovert

Wouldn't you think 2 cars would be relative?

You'd think so, but insurance companies feel otherwise. It's a possibility that Subaru owners in your district are shittier drivers than Scion owners due to age, sex, single, married, etc of who buys what.

Originally Posted by oldpueblo

True, however there is more than one way to mess with pricing. I once got "lower than MSRP" because the sales guy raised my trade-in price well above what even I felt was fair in order to clinch the sale. It's basically the same thing from the other direction and all that really matters at the end is how much you still owe on the new car. It's funny because if Subaru had done the same I'd have been in a BRZ Limited instead, but (in my specific case) Toyota was more flexible with the over-all financing for me. I prefer the FR-S front-end/side trim anyway, and didn't want a spoiler really, so that worked out. I really just wanted push to start.

We all have a BRZ and we all have an FR-S. Some even have a GT86 which is still a BRZ/FR-S and vice versa. They're all the same car. It's like if I buy a pair of shoes from one store and someone says why didn't you buy that exact same pair of shoes but with different laces from that other store? It's the same shoe. The only difference is the laces, store return policy, etc. The Monogram version moves the trim levels even closer to each other. None of these editions is better than the other, they are all made to fit different price points, preferences, etc.

Trade value is something that isn't consistent enough to really base the type of discount you get on a car. If everyone was getting an additional $1k to $1.5k on their trades towards a Scion, then we could have a better idea of what the discount is, but not everyone will be trading in a car and hence, not be eligible. It's extremely YMMV whereas BRZ prices can be had with standard negotiation.

Yeah, if anything, we now have a true 86 GT trim level, which is a GOOD thing. Hell, TRD parts are cheaper than STi parts for OEM+ lovers too!

[Frost]

Originally Posted by oldpueblo

We all have a BRZ and we all have an FR-S. Some even have a GT86 which is still a BRZ/FR-S and vice versa. They're all the same car. It's like if I buy a pair of shoes from one store and someone says why didn't you buy that exact same pair of shoes but with different laces from that other store? It's the same shoe. The only difference is the laces, store return policy, etc. The Monogram version moves the trim levels even closer to each other. None of these editions is better than the other, they are all made to fit different price points, preferences, etc.

I agree - I really don't care whether it's a Subaru or a Toyota/Scion. The only reason I am holding out for the Monogram is because I like Scion's color palette more than Subaru's. If Scion Canada prices itself beyond the fully loaded BRZ, then I don't care about the Monogram edition and stick to my original plan for the BRZ.

I also tend to lean towards Toyota because my family has bought 3 cars from the same sales person at our local Toyota dealership in the last 3 years and he has always been a pleasure to deal with. I have zero experience with Subaru and thus a little tentative but obviously will still pursue it if needed to.

Once the official announcement comes out - I may just have to move my car shopping time a month earlier... was planning end of April but may have to move to March due to the "limited time offer".

[FiRStsc10n]

Originally Posted by Frost

I agree - I really don't care whether it's a Subaru or a Toyota/Scion. The only reason I am holding out for the Monogram is because I like Scion's color palette more than Subaru's. If Scion Canada prices itself beyond the fully loaded BRZ, then I don't care about the Monogram edition and stick to my original plan for the BRZ.

Leave it up to Toyota/Scion Canada to leave out some features and price it more than the BRZ, wouldn't be the first retarded thing they've done as of late.

[Criminal]

Since there only making 2000 of them, what color r the gonna make it? Are the gonna make it 2 tone like the IQ?

[BlueDubbinTDI]

Originally Posted by oldpueblo

Scion is Toyota, surprise! When I take my car in it doesn't get serviced by Scion techs. I don't go to a Scion dealership to buy it or to get parts. It's all Toyota. Just think of Scion as a Toyota trim level. And Toyota has plenty of history of their own. Both good companies with different pros/cons.

Lol I know. I'm just saying nobody outside of Scion ownership gives even the slightest fuck about scion the brand. Most people just see Scion as a car company for kiddies. I agree with you I just wish they'd just launched it under true badge it belongs under from the start, along with all the standard features the GT86 got. Then there would be no need for these editions if they had it from the start which they should have anyways was all i was saying

[Rio]

Originally Posted by Criminal

Since there only making 2000 of them, what color r the gonna make it? Are the gonna make it 2 tone like the IQ?

Just like the iQ, maroon and silver! I am starting another rumor. Lol

[21_nola_05]

Originally Posted by indesign

When the FR-S was first released, I quickly saw the differences, as we basically got the base model GT86 (non-RC). I knew that somewhere down the line, Scion would probably make their release series have the "higher end" GT86 features. But I wanted the car too much to hold out a year or more for cosmetic and creature comforts.

I must admit I would have bought the monogram packaged car if it was available at release, but it wasn't, so I bought my car and have enjoyed it the whole time. I've already added a set of GT86 headlights, which was the basis of my jealousy, so it's not all bad.


Now I just have to wait to see if Scion starts bringing over those japanese catalog options, like the TRD body kit...

Totally agree with you . i just bought my 2014 frs cuz i couldnt wait any longer . ive since ordered the winjet headlights cuz it was also the basis of my jealousy

[dnieves]

Originally Posted by BadMoon

And a sexy color it is.

WRB with glossy gold pasti dipped wheels FTW!

[dnieves]

Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI

Lol I know. I'm just saying nobody outside of Scion ownership gives even the slightest fuck about scion the brand. Most people just see Scion as a car company for kiddies. I agree with you I just wish they'd just launched it under true badge it belongs under from the start, along with all the standard features the GT86 got. Then there would be no need for these editions if they had it from the start which they should have anyways was all i was saying

Prior to the FRS, people thought Scion only made the tC and the shoebox with wheels xB. They need to advertise more because there are still a lot of people that don't know Scion (and fewer that know it's Toyota -believe it or not).

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by trevorovert

Higher insurance premium why? I got the BRZ and FR-S quoted with state farm, and BRZ was $10 a month higher.

It all depends where you live. I'm with State Farm as well, and the BRZ was a little under $30 less per month vs the FRS. Solidified my case to buy the BRZ right when I found this out.

[torqdork]

Originally Posted by Criminal

Since there only making 2000 of them, what color r the gonna make it? Are the gonna make it 2 tone like the IQ?

Limited to the existing color choices for 2013/2014 production.

I'm curious too. What color are future owners ordering? What color would the rest of us order?

Me, either would work:

#1--Raven
#2--Whiteout

[Jertronic]

When do we get to see the first pictures of the interior and trim?

The FR-s cloth seats are surprisingly excellent IMO. Even the color makes the aesthetics pleasing. And talk about comfortable! Wowza!




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[bestwheelbase]

When the FRS first launched it was criticized for not having all the features available in other countries where the car is sold as an 86/GT86. Now we are getting those features and people complain.

This is great!! Whatever it takes to reach a broader audience and give people CHOICES. We need more people driving cars like these. Fuel efficient, good chassis dynamics, not too heavy... oh what a feeling!!

Personally I dislike dual climate control. If I could request standard HVAC this Monogram thing might interest me. Alas, it seems you gotta go all-in for the options or get nothing.

That rearview mirror is so cool.