Will a more powerful later version come with upgraded drivetrain throughout?

[MightyMeeple]

I appreciate this line of pondering...I'll throw this thought in there (and it's been shared before as well):

I often consider that the FR-S and BRZ will be a one generation and done product. I personally don't want this to be the case, but I think it has be a possibility. Instead of increasing the output of this engine and possibly upgrading transmission and brakes, I think it much more likely that Toyota will finally build a successor to the Supra (or resurrect the Celica) as their sports car offering....and Subaru will either develop another sports car/coupe solo or simply stay with turbo-charged, all AWD vehicles, with the STi remaining as their flagship performance car.

If it plays out like this, our cars will become relatively unique in the wild, but maintaining/repairing them will become a royal bitch.

[Mulder]

Originally Posted by MightyMeeple

I often consider that the FR-S and BRZ will be a one generation and done product.

I think that will be the case too. I'd love to be wrong.

[mid_life_crisis]

I saw a short quote in a tuner magazine that Toyota has recently said that sometime in the middle of the 2015 model year there will be more power coming. It will not be a turbo.
The bomb was also dropped that at some point there will be a redesign that will almost certainly not have a flat four.

[MightyMeeple]

Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis

I saw a short quote in a tuner magazine that Toyota has recently said that sometime in the middle of the 2015 model year there will be more power coming. It will not be a turbo.
The bomb was also dropped that at some point there will be a redesign that will almost certainly not have a flat four.

Sincerely hoping I'm wrong and you're right. However, if a redesign involves something that doesn't have a flat-four....well, that's basically the same scenario I've laid out. Just really hoping we don't loose manufacturer support (and in turn after-market support) for our cars.

[86-tundra]

I don't see why anyone thinks they will move to a 2.5L engine in the FR-S. if that happens, it will be many, MANY years from now. Like next generation, 7-10 years from now. I doubt the FR-S will even have a second generation, honestly.

If anything, I see a turbo FR-S coming out... next generation... with the same FA20 motor.. And I'd ping that at around a 10% chance right now

[BRZPDX]

I have to agree with @MightyMeeple . I think this car is very similar to a Miata, with niche market targets, it will be a "one of a kind" car, and it ends there. Sure both manufacturer can learn and use from this platform for other models in their line up (WRX/STI/Supra/Celica Etc.). I suppose they can make a limited low production of a "freak" model with a 2.5 or a turbo/sc package, but that will be a stretch.

I believe they will have slightly different cosmetic packages and perhaps suspension upgrades, but I do not see this car getting a drastic change in the coming years.

The Japanese BRZ sports package cars are limited production with interior/suspension/aero upgrades and thats it.

[diss7]

Get a mustang/camaro

[Mulder]

Originally Posted by diss7

Get a mustang/camaro

A 2010-2013 Corvette Grand Sport is my 2nd choice if the FRS doesn't become fully irresistible. I told myself from the beginning that as much as I liked everything about the FRS (since 2008ish when the concept appeared and this site began) I wasn't going to buy it until a more powerful option came out with at least 250hp. Having driven a 300HP exige, and a 2011 corvette, and owned a Mazdaspeed6, I know I like a nice power/weight ratio.

Time will tell. Time will tell. Going to finish paying off my student loans first. One more year.

[Braces]

Originally Posted by Mulder

Time will tell. Time will tell. Going to finish paying off my student loans first. One more year.

Smart choice.

[raven1231]

Will the 2020 frs come with vertical doors and underglows????

Nobody answered my question

[Whitigir]

Originally Posted by raven1231

Will the 2020 frs come with vertical doors and underglows????

Nobody answered my question

I will answer your question with a question.

What will happen to you in 2020 ?

[raven1231]

I'll turn 31

[Mulder]

Originally Posted by Monogram

This is an inexpensive sports car affordable by younger, less experienced drivers, and bringing the vehicle to market with 250-300hp was considered to be irresponsible.

Even at $25k, that's not something a typical 16 year old is going to go out and be able to afford.

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by Monogram

I heard a rumor that the FR-S/86/BRZ vehicles were brought to market at 200hp because of the market segment targeted. This is an inexpensive sports car affordable by younger, less experienced drivers, and bringing the vehicle to market with 250-300hp was considered to be irresponsible. Typically older more experienced drivers have the money to boost hp, and they designed the vehicle to handle additional power. I do not see the vehicle coming to market with higher horsepower.

That is nonsense. There are plenty of high horsepower and more dangerous cars out there for young people to afford. It doesn't have over 200 hp because that's all they managed to get out of it at the time without risking lower reliability, worse fuel economy, and higher emissions. They chose a naturally aspirated 4 cylinder mostly due to cost reasons and it's a 2.0L to fit in the lower tax bracket of many countries. I very much doubt somebody at Toyota/Subaru was thinking, "We better not give it any more horsepower because a few younger and less experienced drivers will be slightly more likely to crash!"