Alcon BBK - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

MikeM5 · 07-04-2013, 11:50 AM

Good choice!

I run the 384 & 370mm superkit on my M3 (with the optional RS29s) and I absolutely LOVE them. Can't wait to hear your impressions of the kit on this chassis!

ultra · 07-04-2013, 03:04 PM

I'm getting an Alcon Advantage Extreme 4 corner kit installed next week. It's the smaller version - 343mm version, not the 365mm version. 343mm version will clear 17s (tested).

Big $$$ for sure but I'm getting a deal because it's coming lightly used off a local shop car. Basically getting a 4 corner BBK kit for the same price as a front BBK.

Can post up pics if ppl want.

Anthonytpt · 07-04-2013, 03:47 PM

Want.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultra

I'm getting an Alcon Advantage Extreme 4 corner kit installed next week. It's the smaller version - 343mm version, not the 365mm version. 343mm version will clear 17s (tested).

Big $$$ for sure but I'm getting a deal because it's coming lightly used off a local shop car. Basically getting a 4 corner BBK kit for the same price as a front BBK.

Can post up pics if ppl want.

RaceTech · 07-04-2013, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultra

I'm getting an Alcon Advantage Extreme 4 corner kit installed next week. It's the smaller version - 343mm version, not the 365mm version. 343mm version will clear 17s (tested).

Big $$$ for sure but I'm getting a deal because it's coming lightly used off a local shop car. Basically getting a 4 corner BBK kit for the same price as a front BBK.

Can post up pics if ppl want.

Thats gonna look and perform solidly! Post pics for sure.

BRZKG · 07-05-2013, 10:58 AM

Alcon maybe is not such nice, and shiny like Stoptech, AP and others kits. Looks a bit raw I would say, but works amazing. I've done 3000 miles so far on track only, and I'm very impressed how it works. For those who use cars on street only : Alcon is noise free, and dust free, even if used with expensive motorsport pads - Pagid RS29. Once again I highly recommend guys from JDL, for great support and help.

http://www.jdl-brakes.com/toyota-gt86.html

ultra · 07-09-2013, 11:41 AM

Got the 343mm kit installed on my car.

Using 20mm H&R spacers because there was only an mm or so clearance between my OZ Ultraleggeras and the callipers - i.e. they'd probably fit without spacers but the clearance would be minimal.

Haven't pushed the car hard on these things yet but so far the brake feel is vibration free, with excellent modulation and pedal feedback characteristics. More-than-ample stopping power of course as well.

Pads are Ferodo DS2500s. They're used (as is the kit itself) and have been tracked before but no noise etc.

Anyhow, pics:

Front

Front close up

Rear

Rear close up

Outside

BRZKG · 08-23-2013, 01:32 PM

I have to upload pics of mine car. So far 1500 miles on track done, discs are still ok but pads have to be replaced soon. Best modification in my car, Alcons are excellent !

Vonsamhain · 08-28-2013, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZKG

I have to upload pics of mine car. So far 1500 miles on track done, discs are still ok but pads have to be replaced soon. Best modification in my car, Alcons are excellent !

You got 1500 "track only miles" on one set of pads? That seems rather extreme to me.

BRZKG · 08-28-2013, 04:08 PM

It's best result so far. On stock brakes, 350-450 track miles was good result. I think I use less brakes now, because stopping power is better.

BRZKG · 11-02-2013, 04:51 AM

Can anyone recognise what wheels are on this car :

I found it, at JDL website, company who supplied my brakes, it's their client car, but they don't know spec of wheels

More pictures are here :

http://www.jdl-brakes.com/alcon-adv-...ubaru-brz.html

Dezoris · 11-05-2013, 01:02 AM

The rotor costs are absolutely insane compared to the AP kit. $900 for two rotors? Really? What are the rebuild costs?

You can get two new AP disks and both calipers rebuilt for $500.

I cannot see how these brakes are even worth it for the consumable costs alone.

diss7 · 12-28-2013, 06:18 AM

FWIW Toyota Racing NZ chose Alcons for the TR86. They run the yellow pads. TR told me that they expect the pads and discs to last an entire race series. I have the TR guy a "what?l" look, but he was adimant. He added that he thought the cars were overbraked, commenting that it took 3 or 4 laps for them to 'come on'.

They're running full slicks, full race car.

Racecomp Engineering · 12-28-2013, 11:09 AM

Pagid yellows are awesome pads. We used them a lot on STI brembos. Expensive but they last a long time...they're endurance pads.

- Andy

teamturbo · 12-28-2013, 12:49 PM

Just ebaying around, anyone know if this kit would fit the FR-S?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WILWOOD-SUPE...4881b4&vxp=mtr

07-04-2013, 11:50 AM	#29
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07-04-2013, 03:04 PM	#30
ultra Curious cat. Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 86 GT base M/T - Red Location: Dubai Posts: 775 Thanks: 840 Thanked 383 Times in 191 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm getting an Alcon Advantage Extreme 4 corner kit installed next week. It's the smaller version - 343mm version, not the 365mm version. 343mm version will clear 17s (tested). Big $$$ for sure but I'm getting a deal because it's coming lightly used off a local shop car. Basically getting a 4 corner BBK kit for the same price as a front BBK. Can post up pics if ppl want. __________________ 2013 Toyota 86 GT M/T 2009 Renault Clio Sport R27 Team F1 Edition (sold) 1991 Mazda MX5 Miata (sold) 2007 Mitsubishi Evo 9 RS (sold) 2006 VW Golf R32 (sold)

07-09-2013, 11:41 AM	#34
ultra Curious cat. Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 86 GT base M/T - Red Location: Dubai Posts: 775 Thanks: 840 Thanked 383 Times in 191 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Got the 343mm kit installed on my car. Using 20mm H&R spacers because there was only an mm or so clearance between my OZ Ultraleggeras and the callipers - i.e. they'd probably fit without spacers but the clearance would be minimal. Haven't pushed the car hard on these things yet but so far the brake feel is vibration free, with excellent modulation and pedal feedback characteristics. More-than-ample stopping power of course as well. Pads are Ferodo DS2500s. They're used (as is the kit itself) and have been tracked before but no noise etc. Anyhow, pics: Front Front close up Rear Rear close up Outside __________________ 2013 Toyota 86 GT M/T 2009 Renault Clio Sport R27 Team F1 Edition (sold) 1991 Mazda MX5 Miata (sold) 2007 Mitsubishi Evo 9 RS (sold) 2006 VW Golf R32 (sold)

11-05-2013, 01:02 AM	#39
Dezoris Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: IL Posts: 2,857 Thanks: 519 Thanked 2,998 Times in 1,095 Posts Mentioned: 159 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	The rotor costs are absolutely insane compared to the AP kit. $900 for two rotors? Really? What are the rebuild costs? You can get two new AP disks and both calipers rebuilt for $500. I cannot see how these brakes are even worth it for the consumable costs alone. __________________ SAVAGEGEESE

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BRZKG Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: FL Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Alcon maybe is not such nice, and shiny like Stoptech, AP and others kits. Looks a bit raw I would say, but works amazing. I've done 3000 miles so far on track only, and I'm very impressed how it works. For those who use cars on street only : Alcon is noise free, and dust free, even if used with expensive motorsport pads - Pagid RS29. Once again I highly recommend guys from JDL, for great support and help. http://www.jdl-brakes.com/toyota-gt86.html

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BRZKG Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: FL Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have to upload pics of mine car. So far 1500 miles on track done, discs are still ok but pads have to be replaced soon. Best modification in my car, Alcons are excellent !

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BRZKG Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: FL Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's best result so far. On stock brakes, 350-450 track miles was good result. I think I use less brakes now, because stopping power is better.

11-02-2013, 04:51 AM	#38
BRZKG Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: FL Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Can anyone recognise what wheels are on this car : I found it, at JDL website, company who supplied my brakes, it's their client car, but they don't know spec of wheels More pictures are here : http://www.jdl-brakes.com/alcon-adv-...ubaru-brz.html

12-28-2013, 06:18 AM	#40
diss7 Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: AE86, 2x GT86, TE27 Location: Christchurch NZ Posts: 1,478 Thanks: 826 Thanked 1,181 Times in 522 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FWIW Toyota Racing NZ chose Alcons for the TR86. They run the yellow pads. TR told me that they expect the pads and discs to last an entire race series. I have the TR guy a "what?l" look, but he was adimant. He added that he thought the cars were overbraked, commenting that it took 3 or 4 laps for them to 'come on'. They're running full slicks, full race car.

12-28-2013, 11:09 AM	#41
Racecomp Engineering Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2016 BRZ, 2012 Paris Di2 & 2018 STI Location: Severn, MD Posts: 5,520 Thanks: 3,542 Thanked 7,415 Times in 3,033 Posts Mentioned: 311 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	Pagid yellows are awesome pads. We used them a lot on STI brembos. Expensive but they last a long time...they're endurance pads. - Andy

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teamturbo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: FR-S Location: Missouri Posts: 218 Thanks: 137 Thanked 110 Times in 61 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just ebaying around, anyone know if this kit would fit the FR-S? http://www.ebay.com/itm/WILWOOD-SUPE...4881b4&vxp=mtr

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