Thoughts on Tires - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

dem00n · 12-27-2013, 07:44 PM

215's and a medium grip tire. Have fun all day.

No need to go for the uber grip like the RE11A or PSS.

Truly depends on your driving style.

finch1750 · 12-27-2013, 08:10 PM

What kind of mileage are people getting out of the PSS? And is it on canyon runs, DD, auto x, a combo, etc? Tia.

wbradley · 12-27-2013, 08:30 PM

The feel of the car will definitely change from stock as far as being less playful at lower speeds. If you are planning to track your car that's another thing altogether, everyone says definite improvement.

The way I see it the stock tires are keeping me out of trouble. Have 2 sets of stock wheels and tires now.

There might also be the weight issue as unsprung weight seems to be the best thing to keep low to improve performance.

CSG David · 12-27-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wbradley

The feel of the car will definitely change from stock as far as being less playful at lower speeds. If you are planning to track your car that's another thing altogether, everyone says definite improvement.

The way I see it the stock tires are keeping me out of trouble. Have 2 sets of stock wheels and tires now.

There might also be the weight issue as unsprung weight seems to be the best thing to keep low to improve performance.

Hoosiers are lighter than EHP tires. Everyone should run Hoosiers then.

Calum · 12-27-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David

Hoosiers are lighter than EHP tires. Everyone should run Hoosiers then.

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Hoosiers for the track day bro!

OrbitalEllipses · 12-27-2013, 08:54 PM

MPSS.

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Originally Posted by wbradley

The feel of the car will definitely change from stock as far as being less playful at lower speeds. If you are planning to track your car that's another thing altogether, everyone says definite improvement.

The way I see it the stock tires are keeping me out of trouble. Have 2 sets of stock wheels and tires now.

There might also be the weight issue as unsprung weight seems to be the best thing to keep low to improve performance.

It will make the car boring every time you're not breaking the law. At least that's how I feel. Now I need car Viagra: b00st.

wbradley · 12-27-2013, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

MPSS.

It will make the car boring every time you're not breaking the law. At least that's how I feel. Now I need car Viagra: b00st.

I suggest a Cialis and Levitra salad with a handful of Extenz! LOL. Once your g/f gets out of the hospital ask her how she likes you now. LOL

Suberman · 12-27-2013, 09:34 PM

I think 225/45 x17 on 17x7.5 or 17 x 8 wheels are probably the right size for this modestly powered car.

I have 225/45x17 winter tires on stock 17x7 rims and additional rollover is not noticeable. I prefer the handling of the wider tire on bare roads, even though softer rubber than stock.

SubieNate · 12-28-2013, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Calum

Yeah, I am. I really like the idea of the product. This is the very last chance but my car is in storage so it doesn't really matter right now.

I will post my impressions, but it'll be at least March before I see my car.

That was my thought to, different platforms will respond differently. I know my old 2.5i on RE11's was great until a point, then all hell broke loose.

My Impreza was super easy to drive and really predictable... until you went into a corner too hot and let off too quickly. Don't do that. Bad ju ju.

Nathan

Captain Insano · 12-28-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Calum

Hoosiers for the track day bro!

LOL... that was good.

ZDan · 12-28-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG David

The PSS is in the same category as Hankook V12 Evo and Conti DW.

Not really. For street usage, it's comparable to last-gen Extreme tires in terms of dry grip (and way better in the wet). See Car and Driver Monsters of Grip test. Yes yes, I know they will get hotter and lose some grip at the track, but that's not what this thread is about.

OP isn't looking for track tires, PSS are probably the best-performing real-world warm-weather street tires you can get. And the lighter weight does improve the quality of feedback/feel and ride a bit.

FWIW, I have PSS as daily tires on my RX-7, and Z1 StarSpecs for track work. Back to back weekends they were more comparable in terms of grip than I expected, but the PSS feel a lot better on the street (StarSpecs felt like wooden clogs in comparison).

I like the RS-3s I have on the s2000, but grip in cool temps and particularly in the wet is nowhere near PSS levels. And on the street, I'd say they're about equal in warm dry conditions.

CSG David · 12-29-2013, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ZDan

Not really. For street usage, it's comparable to last-gen Extreme tires in terms of dry grip (and way better in the wet). See Car and Driver Monsters of Grip test. Yes yes, I know they will get hotter and lose some grip at the track, but that's not what this thread is about.

OP isn't looking for track tires, PSS are probably the best-performing real-world warm-weather street tires you can get. And the lighter weight does improve the quality of feedback/feel and ride a bit.

FWIW, I have PSS as daily tires on my RX-7, and Z1 StarSpecs for track work. Back to back weekends they were more comparable in terms of grip than I expected, but the PSS feel a lot better on the street (StarSpecs felt like wooden clogs in comparison).

I like the RS-3s I have on the s2000, but grip in cool temps and particularly in the wet is nowhere near PSS levels. And on the street, I'd say they're about equal in warm dry conditions.

RS3 in rain and snow is so fun though.

dsgerbc · 12-29-2013, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wbradley

The feel of the car will definitely change from stock as far as being less playful at lower speeds.

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

It will make the car boring every time you're not breaking the law. At least that's how I feel.

+1 to these. I had MPSS as a DD tire and I couldn't take it, changed back to stock wheel/tires. Utterly boring.

OrbitalEllipses · 12-29-2013, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dsgerbc

+1 to these. I had MPSS as a DD tire and I couldn't take it, changed back to stock wheel/tires. Utterly boring.

*shrug* Good excuse to buy a FI solution. The stock tires may be more fun, but I don't trust them for shit.

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