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miata · 02-18-2012, 01:20 AM

I used to have the 6 spd. The 2nd gear was impossible to get into when the tranny was cold. But it was nice rifle bolt action like short and mechanic shifter.
For autoX though, 5 speed was more desirable because you can go up to higher speed before you need to shift to the 3rd gear.

86'd · 02-21-2012, 06:31 PM

I drove my dad's 2006 MX-5 yesterday and it's fun. It's even automatic (@160hp) and has enough power. I love the seating position and the sound. It's no wonder it's such a popular car.

I don't know how it will compare to the FRS other than they are sporty cars. Obviously the FRS is a 2+2, so there's a little more practicality, but I think they'll be pretty much the same; with the FRS being a bit quicker. The MX-5 is really plasticy on the inside, so I think the newer FRS will be a bit more nicer and comfortable.

And about the debate about why only 200hp out of the FRS engine, and I'll bet that the engine was made to be tuned. But that's just speculation on my part.

fatoni · 02-21-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 86'd

I drove my dad's 2006 MX-5 yesterday and it's fun. It's even automatic (@160hp) and has enough power. I love the seating position and the sound. It's no wonder it's such a popular car.

I don't know how it will compare to the FRS other than they are sporty cars. Obviously the FRS is a 2+2, so there's a little more practicality, but I think they'll be pretty much the same; with the FRS being a bit quicker. The MX-5 is really plasticy on the inside, so I think the newer FRS will be a bit more nicer and comfortable.

And about the debate about why only 200hp out of the FRS engine, and I'll bet that the engine was made to be tuned. But that's just speculation on my part.

id love to agree with you on that last part but 200 hp coming out of a 2 liter doesnt seem too tuner friendly

csaba · 02-21-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by prighello

Not worse than the RX-8 IMO, but then the RX-8 has one of the best rides of any modern sports car. Also, I believe the NC Miata's chassis is derived from the RX-8 which could explain the supple feeling of the ride.

I would buy a RX-8 if thay would use a different engine than the wankel with all the problems it has.

GenkiElite · 02-21-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by csaba

I would buy a RX-8 if thay would use a different engine than the wankel with all the problems it has.

Find one witha blown engine or better yet a much more attractive FD with a blown engine and put whatever you want in there.

csaba · 02-21-2012, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GenkiElite

Find one witha blown engine or better yet a much more attractive FD with a blown engine and put whatever you want in there.

That's too much work but thanks

random · 02-22-2012, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by csaba

I would buy a RX-8 if thay would use a different engine than the wankel with all the problems it has.

Then it wouldn't be an RX-8.

Off topic.

HitTheGas · 02-22-2012, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

id love to agree with you on that last part but 200 hp coming out of a 2 liter doesnt seem too tuner friendly

if they can sell 2.5L turbo suby boxers w/ over 300, they can sell a 2L one w/ 250. @ 2700Lbs thats a higher hp/weight ratio than a wrx sti, w/ less drivetrain loss.

& considering how much performance people can get w/ aftermarket parts on a STi, i can see a turbo FR-S & BRZ being very tuner friendly.

SUB-FT86 · 02-22-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HitTheGas

if they can sell 2.5L turbo suby boxers w/ over 300, they can sell a 2L one w/ 250. @ 2700Lbs thats a higher hp/weight ratio than a wrx sti, w/ less drivetrain loss.

& considering how much performance people can get w/ aftermarket parts on a STi, i can see a turbo FR-S & BRZ being very tuner friendly.

Keep dreaming about the turbo engine model. And I will keep dreaming of a FA25 with about 240hp/180tq.

HitTheGas · 02-22-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Keep dreaming about the turbo engine model. And I will keep dreaming of a FA25 with about 240hp/180tq.

well there are already turbos on the car from aftermarket companies & the car isn't even released.

plus there is quite a bit of room between the engine & hood, that can't be a coincidence.

wichiewichie · 02-22-2012, 09:23 AM

if someone really want a light weight sport car, like a miata, then why not wait till the next gen miata instead? it will supposedly weight less that 2200 lbs with a better power to weight ratio than the current car. That will keep miataphiles in love with their miatas and not arguing about what car has better driving dynamics, since it would be obvious.... although it would keep bulimic BRZ/FRS owners jealous hummmm

SUB-FT86 · 02-22-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HitTheGas

well there are already turbos on the car from aftermarket companies & the car isn't even released.

plus there is quite a bit of room between the engine & hood, that can't be a coincidence.

Which companies? The Ken Gushi drift car is not the FA20.

7thgear · 02-22-2012, 09:47 AM

FRS has rear seats.

HitTheGas · 02-22-2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Which companies? The Ken Gushi drift car is not the FA20.

haven't HKS & Greddy slapped turbos on GT-86s already?

02-18-2012, 01:20 AM	#113
miata Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2006 Miata 5 spd Location: wa Posts: 300 Thanks: 5 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I used to have the 6 spd. The 2nd gear was impossible to get into when the tranny was cold. But it was nice rifle bolt action like short and mechanic shifter. For autoX though, 5 speed was more desirable because you can go up to higher speed before you need to shift to the 3rd gear. __________________ 2006 Miata

02-22-2012, 09:47 AM	#125
7thgear i'm sorry, what? Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Canada Location: I rock a beat harder than you can beat it with rocks Posts: 4,399 Thanks: 357 Thanked 2,508 Times in 1,268 Posts Mentioned: 40 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	FRS has rear seats. __________________ don't you think if I was wrong, I'd know it?

02-21-2012, 06:31 PM	#114
86'd Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2012 WRX Sedan Location: Los Angeles Posts: 511 Thanks: 25 Thanked 97 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I drove my dad's 2006 MX-5 yesterday and it's fun. It's even automatic (@160hp) and has enough power. I love the seating position and the sound. It's no wonder it's such a popular car. I don't know how it will compare to the FRS other than they are sporty cars. Obviously the FRS is a 2+2, so there's a little more practicality, but I think they'll be pretty much the same; with the FRS being a bit quicker. The MX-5 is really plasticy on the inside, so I think the newer FRS will be a bit more nicer and comfortable. And about the debate about why only 200hp out of the FRS engine, and I'll bet that the engine was made to be tuned. But that's just speculation on my part.

02-22-2012, 09:23 AM	#123
wichiewichie Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Audi A3 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 23 Thanks: 49 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	if someone really want a light weight sport car, like a miata, then why not wait till the next gen miata instead? it will supposedly weight less that 2200 lbs with a better power to weight ratio than the current car. That will keep miataphiles in love with their miatas and not arguing about what car has better driving dynamics, since it would be obvious.... although it would keep bulimic BRZ/FRS owners jealous hummmm

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