sway bars? BEST choice? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ric342 · 12-04-2013, 12:15 AM

Hello fellow forum debaters, I was in the market for some sway bars and wanted some advice. What would be the best swaybar combo to buy for the FR-S? I want the best handling improvement out of this modd.

ichitaka05 · 12-04-2013, 12:30 AM

None...

Sway bar barely helps. Save some money & buy other parts, like brake upgrade, suspension upgrade, tires, driving skills

Edit:
Before members go berserk over my post. What I meant was, to see full potential of sway bars, you need to know what's you're expecting, making, ideas, driving skills & goal of your 86. Without those, it's waste of money & barely helps

whataboutbob · 12-04-2013, 12:38 AM

Whiteline 20mm ft adj with adj endlinks, 16mm rear adj with adj endlinks. Great setup on my car.

tr1x5tuh · 12-04-2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by whataboutbob

Whiteline 20mm ft adj with adj endlinks, 16mm rear adj with adj endlinks. Great setup on my car.

are you talking about 20mm for fronts? you are running both set ups ?

1086 · 12-04-2013, 07:01 PM

If that is the case, would the eibach pro or sportline springs (w/ stock struts) improve handling more so then? I know you can get coil overs instead, but in the spirit of staying in the same price range as sways, would those springs be noticeable/help with handling improvement ?

finch1750 · 12-04-2013, 07:41 PM

Think about what you want the car to do and then look at spring rates. Better handling is different for everyone and their intention.

Do you just DD? AutoX? HPDE? Canyon runs?
What do you not like about the current handling?

mit_peid · 12-04-2013, 07:52 PM

I wanted to ask this question too but never did. I ended up recently buying the Eibach Front & Rear Sway bars from TireRack (they seem to have the best price shipped to CA). I'm lowered on the Pro-Kits, have upgraded to some stickier 18" tires, have a front tower strut bar, and one of my buddies told me sway bars can make a big difference. Someone can tell me I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, but my guess is that there probably isn't much difference between different brands (besides the fact that some may have more adjustment points). My goal is to just to play around with different settings. I believe that if I really tighten up the rear end, the car would oversteer more - which could be more fun and potentially more dangerous. Obviously, it won't oversteer like a Porsche 918 - RIP Paul Walker - but I want to induce a little more oversteer.

Sully · 12-04-2013, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

None...

Sway bar barely helps. Save some money & buy other parts, like brake upgrade, suspension upgrade, tires, driving skills

Edit:
Before members go berserk over my post. What I meant was, to see full potential of sway bars, you need to know what's you're expecting, making, ideas, driving skills & goal of your 86. Without those, it's waste of money & barely helps

Truth. Unless aesthetics are your goal, don't spend $3000 on upgrading everything, use up $3000 of tires in autocross/track time. Figure out what you want.

Bones36 · 12-04-2013, 11:00 PM

I got the eibach sways. I felt a larger diffrence from sways then the springs. It's hard to describe. It turns in easier and feels flatter in turns

1086 · 12-04-2013, 11:09 PM

but do Sways + springs = great?

kendalldwhite · 12-04-2013, 11:15 PM

Hotchkiss

Bones36 · 12-05-2013, 12:09 AM

i like it

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1086

but do Sways + springs = great?

whataboutbob · 12-05-2013, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tr1x5tuh

are you talking about 20mm for fronts? you are running both set ups ?

20 f, 16 r

Fluxx · 12-05-2013, 01:49 AM

If the sways are your first mod all they will do is make the car ride a bit harsher and make it a bit more prone to lose traction. The difference won't be world changing, but it will be there. For straight up performance and handling gains a good set of performance tires is the best bang for the buck.

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12-04-2013, 07:41 PM	#6
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1086 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: UM86 - 6MT Location: CA (elevation 85 ft.) Posts: 518 Thanks: 383 Thanked 249 Times in 126 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If that is the case, would the eibach pro or sportline springs (w/ stock struts) improve handling more so then? I know you can get coil overs instead, but in the spirit of staying in the same price range as sways, would those springs be noticeable/help with handling improvement ?

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Bones36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 Brz Jrsc Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 255 Thanks: 78 Thanked 76 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I got the eibach sways. I felt a larger diffrence from sways then the springs. It's hard to describe. It turns in easier and feels flatter in turns

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Fluxx Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S in Ultramarine Location: Round Mountain Posts: 85 Thanks: 171 Thanked 26 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If the sways are your first mod all they will do is make the car ride a bit harsher and make it a bit more prone to lose traction. The difference won't be world changing, but it will be there. For straight up performance and handling gains a good set of performance tires is the best bang for the buck.

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