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Old 11-30-2013, 02:19 PM   #43
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The chirping has been fixed with the oct 17 tsb. Only one case of this pump chirping, everyone else has had good luck with this one.

Over 3,000km since I got mine and chirp free.

(Usually a new pump will start chirping around 1k km, with the old design)
Glad to hear that, and thought that Toyota/Scion would come up with a fix before long. They always do
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Old 11-30-2013, 04:33 PM   #44
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Make yourself at home. And it's because we ARE brilliant for buying an FR-S/BRZ.

What you HATE the most on your FR-S/BRZ/GT86/FT86?
It was one of my more sensible purchases that exceeded my expectations..
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Old 11-30-2013, 04:49 PM   #45
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Well, you are a bit limited at under 40G out the door. If so, the FR-S is completely a better choice. Especially at Sub 30k.

1/ sleek looking
2/ Super car characteristics, and handling, but low power
3/ Cargo space

But twice the price of the FR-S would be in the 50G. Now if you are talking about 50G...there are more to enjoy...unless you can not drive them Ofcourse.

The FR-S is excellent vehicle for the sub 40g. It was well thought into, and designed for. But it doesn't mean that it is the best out there, especially with the Op said "Money is no Objection"

If you can, go test drive a C7, and you will see how American is blessed with them, and the price. Ofcourse, C7 is also well thought, and designed. Whoever complains about C7 have no Cargo space = Idiots...people who can swing 60G around at their Leisure time, do only carry Golf cubs....LOL!!!
I meant money is no object between the two cars.. If I had 55K to piss away and had to choose between these two cars.. .. I would still get the FRS..
I came from a C6.. and wouldnt compare the two.. I'm really into the
light weight nimble feel.. the vette and Z4 dont have it.. and the C7 is another 150lbs chunkier. Its a monster with high grip, designed for high limits.. I do most of my driving in the real world where the FRS is more
enjoyable to play with.. you can use most of what the car has.. which makes it more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow..
I miss the slingshot take offs that the vette had.. and that instant torque..
but for rowing the gears and keeping your foot in it with that crisp go kart handling.. the FRS is the better bang for the buck.. but too different to really compare..
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It was one of my more sensible purchases that exceeded my expectations..
Ohhhh......just wait till you get that new muffler installed .... your ears will have lots of fun also ....

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Old 11-30-2013, 05:10 PM   #47
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I meant money is no object between the two cars.. If I had 55K to piss away and had to choose between these two cars.. .. I would still get the FRS..
I came from a C6.. and wouldnt compare the two.. I'm really into the
light weight nimble feel.. the vette and Z4 dont have it.. and the C7 is another 150lbs chunkier. Its a monster with high grip, designed for high limits.. I do most of my driving in the real world where the FRS is more
enjoyable to play with.. you can use most of what the car has.. which makes it more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow..
I miss the slingshot take offs that the vette had.. and that instant torque..
but for rowing the gears and keeping your foot in it with that crisp go kart handling.. the FRS is the better bang for the buck.. but too different to really compare..
my sisters mazda2 is even more light weight and nimble plus you get to use much more of the 2 than you do an frs.
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Old 11-30-2013, 08:29 PM   #49
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my sisters mazda2 is even more light weight and nimble plus you get to use much more of the 2 than you do an frs.
Well you have to fit in one first.. I sat in my friends, I stare directly into the top of the windshield.. He had to by a smaller steering wheel just so he could fit his gut in it! If I could fit I wouldn't want one anyway.. Looks like they are made for secretaries.. I can fit comfortably in the FRS with a helmet on.. One of the few sports cars I owned that I can fit without modifying something.. And it's a great looking machine.. But I can appreciate the mazda2 for being an affordable capable nimble sports car..
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Lolz...the mazda 2 is FWD....

It is night and day different from a FWD to a RWD....
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Old 11-30-2013, 11:16 PM   #51
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I will hate on BMW. They are now building cars more suitable for straight line performance and highway cruising than they are for twisty roads. The lightest car in their line-up now weighs over 3000LB. On top of that, they are so expensive to repair that you can't afford to own one out of warranty.

I talked my son into buying a FR-S. If he had bought a BMW I would have disowned him. Well, maybe not disowned him but I would not have worked on the damn thing.

Buy a BMW if you are more concerned about your status than driving enjoyment!
To your point - I owned a 1973 BMW 2002, low on HP but big on fun; not to mention style.
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:24 AM   #52
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I meant money is no object between the two cars.. If I had 55K to piss away and had to choose between these two cars.. .. I would still get the FRS..
I came from a C6.. and wouldnt compare the two.. I'm really into the
light weight nimble feel.. the vette and Z4 dont have it.. and the C7 is another 150lbs chunkier. Its a monster with high grip, designed for high limits.. I do most of my driving in the real world where the FRS is more
enjoyable to play with.. you can use most of what the car has.. which makes it more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow..
I miss the slingshot take offs that the vette had.. and that instant torque..
but for rowing the gears and keeping your foot in it with that crisp go kart handling.. the FRS is the better bang for the buck.. but too different to really compare..
Sure, but if you're looking for light weight or nimble and have 2x the budget of a BRZ/FRS, there are a number of other cars you can start to consider. Porsche Boxsters/Caymans are in that price range, and are good at light and nimble. You can also get a used Lotus Elise/Exige or even an Exige S, which is pretty much the gold standard for light and nimble, though you give up a lot of practicality in the process. You can even get an NSX for that kind of money, and I've heard nothing but amazing things about those (though sadly, I haven't had a chance to drive one). You can also get pretty much any generation of M3 that you could want in that price range (an E36 would be a lot of fun), and the older ones absolutely fit the bill for light and nimble. (EDIT: And, I nearly forgot, you can get a great condition S2k in that price range too)

Admittedly, the vast majority of what I've mentioned here is used though - I agree that out of the currently available, new cars, there really isn't much that gives the driving feel of the BRZ/FR-S. A new Cayman/Boxster is twice the price, and a new Alfa 4C is going to be pretty expensive as well (not to mention the maintenance). Everything else I can think of that improves on the BRZ/FR-S is no longer made, sadly (or outrageously expensive).

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Why are 50% of the posts on this forum a giant circle jerk about how brilliant we all are for buying the same car?
I love how this post got more thanks than the OP....

How many people here would have still bought an FR-S if their income and net worth were suddenly doubled? Some would, but I'm guessing many would not...
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Sure, but if you're looking for light weight or nimble and have 2x the budget of a BRZ/FRS, there are a number of other cars you can start to consider. Porsche Boxsters/Caymans are in that price range, and are good at light and nimble. You can also get a used Lotus Elise/Exige or even an Exige S, which is pretty much the gold standard for light and nimble, though you give up a lot of practicality in the process. You can even get an NSX for that kind of money, and I've heard nothing but amazing things about those (though sadly, I haven't had a chance to drive one). You can also get pretty much any generation of M3 that you could want in that price range (an E36 would be a lot of fun), and the older ones absolutely fit the bill for light and nimble. (EDIT: And, I nearly forgot, you can get a great condition S2k in that price range too)

Admittedly, the vast majority of what I've mentioned here is used though - I agree that out of the currently available, new cars, there really isn't much that gives the driving feel of the BRZ/FR-S. A new Cayman/Boxster is twice the price, and a new Alfa 4C is going to be pretty expensive as well (not to mention the maintenance). Everything else I can think of that improves on the BRZ/FR-S is no longer made, sadly (or outrageously expensive).
Chris.. After I sold my 08 C6, I bought my sons beloved E36 when he went for the 4 door 335i. The M3 was fun and I was more than impressed with its capabilities and practicality for an everyday car.. But being 13+ years old German machine, And me being retired.. I wasn't looking forward to all the maintenance and things it was going to need not far down the road.. But I enjoyed the 2 years I had with it.. But it was not as lightweight or as nimble
As the FRS.. but more practical and balanced than the C6 and I didn't feel like batman driving it..
So here I was with a pocket full of money, time on my hands and still a car fanatic.. So off I went to the dealers.. The P cayman was my first stop..
Test drove the 77k cayman S.. Nice car! Great looks, descent power, stiff ride!
Looked at used options, etc.. But decided it was more car than I needed and maintenance is just too complex on that car.. You need to take apart lots of stuff for simple things.. And it's just too expensive, too much to worry about for my simple driving needs. I still track my cars.. But only a couple of times a year..
No need to impress anyone anymore as I'm too old to care what others think.. I always had high HP, high performance cars that were more capable than me.. Never using them to their potential.. The lotus is a joke.. It's too small and impractical for daily use.. I gave up having two cars so I needed a one car solution for everyday use and something to run around a track once in awhile..
I test drove the FRS.. Bought it the next day. Of course it's not as fast, as comfortable, as prestigious, as powerful or as capable as some of my other cars were.. But for the money and my needs.. It's damn near perfect!
So while I'm called a fan boy and may seem overly excited about this car..
It's because it fits my needs so well, is fun as he'll in the real world.. One of the Best looking Japanese car ever made! And it's nice owning something that's inexpensive.. Makes beating on it even more fun when you know it's not costing you lots of $$$ to play..
I have owned 44 cars in 45 years of driving.. I want to try them all! Right now the FRS is perfect for my needs and wants...
I went and checked out the C7 and walked away thinking how over corvettes I am.. After owning 4 of them in the last 14 years.. I finally got it out of my system.. To me the new one looks too much like the bat mobile.. Which is another reason I like the FRS so much.. Less is more.. Must be an age thing..
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I love how this post got more thanks than the OP....

How many people here would have still bought an FR-S if their income and net worth were suddenly doubled? Some would, but I'm guessing many would not...
Well that depends on who's buying.. I'm coming down from more powerful and expensive cars.. While most of you youngins are starting the climb up...
This car works well for an entry level sports car. It also is appreciated by those who want a fun ride without the expense of having a more powerful prestigious ride.
I guess I made the full circle...
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LFA is the best looking Japanese car. FRS just take cues from it....seems like you should get an LFA. It is the father to the FRS in every aspects.

If you test drove the C7 and still decide to go for FRS... I have not a clue why.

Probably no cargo space ?

I have not seen any wealthy enthusiast worry about cargo space, as they always have DD. reason why Vette are sold so well.
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