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Old 11-27-2013, 09:17 AM   #2535
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un-tuned results just don't tell the whole story though. Optimum (and in some cases safe) cam timing can change dramatically when you add a good header. My cam timing with equal length 4-1 headers is not at all the same as stock, or un equal length headers.

As for tuned results, you need to make sure the tune is for the header used, not just a generic flash because, again, headers will change cam and fueling requirements (and timing to some extent).

I think the main thing is apples to apples comparison. IMO the following would cover everyting:
  • Tuned stock header VS re-tuned nameless header with same IAM for each and same header back exhaust
  • Stock un-tuned VS nameless un-tuned (not likely to happen unless they get a loaner car)
  • Nameless tuned pump gas Vs nameless tuned E85

I would be happy with just the first (Tuned stock header VS re-tuned nameless) because I believe it tells the whole story. Assuming the same tuner does both tunes and does them impartially. While the gains may not look as impressive, you could be assured all the gains were just due to the header.

This. The first one is all that matters to me personally. Seeing the actually obtainable increase that a header that cost a quarter of a turbo kit.... I would obviously be planning on tuning it. Not just bolting it up, this isn't a $300.00 dc header your putting on a civic and hoping for a bolt on power. The headers in this range are for all out top quality NA power.
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Old 11-27-2013, 11:55 AM   #2536
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^^^^exaxtly what I was talking about.

If you read the first page it sounds like those are un tuned results but i'm not sure.
When i asked ryan@nameless he said current results are similar to the original graph.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:30 PM   #2537
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got tired if waiting and found a USA immed. Shipping of an hks w/cat.

Had FA20CLUB doing my header but after holding my money for me and no headers after 7 weeks it was BS.

Then I was going to use p&L, but they to wanted my money before delivery of product.

I needed cat up front as I deleted 2nd cat. Hks was next option without coming up in front of the engine.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:31 PM   #2538
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You better watch out
You better not cry
Better not pout
I'm telling you why
Nameless headers are coming to town
They're making a list
And checking it twice;
Gonna find out who's naughty and nice
Nameless headers are coming to town

On the Nameless thread you've been posting
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Nameless headers are coming to town
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First, this is awesome. Is now hanging in the office.

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un-tuned results just don't tell the whole story though. Optimum (and in some cases safe) cam timing can change dramatically when you add a good header. My cam timing with equal length 4-1 headers is not at all the same as stock, or un equal length headers.

As for tuned results, you need to make sure the tune is for the header used, not just a generic flash because, again, headers will change cam and fueling requirements (and timing to some extent).

I think the main thing is apples to apples comparison. IMO the following would cover everyting:
  • Tuned stock header VS re-tuned nameless header with same IAM for each and same header back exhaust
  • Stock un-tuned VS nameless un-tuned (not likely to happen unless they get a loaner car)
  • Nameless tuned pump gas Vs nameless tuned E85

I would be happy with just the first (Tuned stock header VS re-tuned nameless) because I believe it tells the whole story. Assuming the same tuner does both tunes and does them impartially. While the gains may not look as impressive, you could be assured all the gains were just due to the header.

We will try and get as much data as we can. I was lucky enough to take delivery on a SWP '14 BRZ Limited last week as my new DD, so we have a stock car

Hopefully down to the dyno next week for some baseline #'s

Happy Early Turkey Day!
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:43 PM   #2539
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^^ This is why I like Nameless. If you ask a sufficiently complex question, they call you to talk to you about your car, what you like, etc to figure out what would work well for you (shout out to Jason for that ).

And in forums they're class acts.
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:21 PM   #2540
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Nameless posted this on Facebook.


"You've been asking, you've been waiting, so here it is. Announcing the Nameless Performance, Inc. "Try To Break Our Website Black Friday-Cyber Monday Sale"
We are offering a whopping 15% off all NAMELESS PERFORMANCE parts (including gift cards) starting today and running through the end of the day on Monday, December 2nd. To take advantage of this CRAZY good deal, just enter the code "BLACKFRIDAY15" at checkout.
Please note that this sale is not applicable to anything other than NAMELESS PERFORMANCE parts.
We will not be at the shop Thursday-Friday, but Jason and Ryan will be checking email and chat periodically.
Have a safe and sane Thanksgiving Weekend
-The Nameless Performance Crew"

So yeah buying a gift card could save you some money on this forthcoming header.
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Old 11-27-2013, 06:01 PM   #2541
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Nameless posted this on Facebook.


"You've been asking, you've been waiting, so here it is. Announcing the Nameless Performance, Inc. "Try To Break Our Website Black Friday-Cyber Monday Sale"
We are offering a whopping 15% off all NAMELESS PERFORMANCE parts (including gift cards) starting today and running through the end of the day on Monday, December 2nd. To take advantage of this CRAZY good deal, just enter the code "BLACKFRIDAY15" at checkout.
Please note that this sale is not applicable to anything other than NAMELESS PERFORMANCE parts.
We will not be at the shop Thursday-Friday, but Jason and Ryan will be checking email and chat periodically.
Have a safe and sane Thanksgiving Weekend
-The Nameless Performance Crew"

So yeah buying a gift card could save you some money on this forthcoming header.
If only this Friday was pay day.... I don't have the $$ to take advantage of this right now... I will in a few weeks, though....

(not pissed at NP... just pissed at the circumstances)

If only I could unload this NIB never-installed 13 STI NP downpipe.....
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Nameless posted this on Facebook.


"You've been asking, you've been waiting, so here it is. Announcing the Nameless Performance, Inc. "Try To Break Our Website Black Friday-Cyber Monday Sale"
We are offering a whopping 15% off all NAMELESS PERFORMANCE parts (including gift cards) starting today and running through the end of the day on Monday, December 2nd. To take advantage of this CRAZY good deal, just enter the code "BLACKFRIDAY15" at checkout.
Please note that this sale is not applicable to anything other than NAMELESS PERFORMANCE parts.
We will not be at the shop Thursday-Friday, but Jason and Ryan will be checking email and chat periodically.
Have a safe and sane Thanksgiving Weekend
-The Nameless Performance Crew"

So yeah buying a gift card could save you some money on this forthcoming header.

Just went to the site and saw this " Because our store software is limited, we can't offer a discount on our gift certificates. This up here so that you can buy store credit in the same fashion as a gift certificate.*"

Not sure if the blog entry supersedes this or maybe the sale hasn't officially started.

* did not try to enter the discount code duringcheckout so it may still work.
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Just went to the site and saw this " Because our store software is limited, we can't offer a discount on our gift certificates. This up here so that you can buy store credit in the same fashion as a gift certificate.*"

Not sure if the blog entry supersedes this or maybe the sale hasn't officially started.

* did not try to enter the discount code duringcheckout so it may still work.
We made this: (http://shop.namelessperformance.com/...t-certificate/) So that you could apply a discount.

It just goes in to your customer account as store credit. Sale is 100% active!

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any deal when the header release for us here? or any deal with buying header and your one-piece over/front?

regardless of the price i'll be buying your products, just curious is all.

hope all you guys have a good thanksgiving!
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Nameless posted this on Facebook.


"You've been asking, you've been waiting, so here it is. Announcing the Nameless Performance, Inc. "Try To Break Our Website Black Friday-Cyber Monday Sale"
We are offering a whopping 15% off all NAMELESS PERFORMANCE parts (including gift cards) starting today and running through the end of the day on Monday, December 2nd. To take advantage of this CRAZY good deal, just enter the code "BLACKFRIDAY15" at checkout.
Please note that this sale is not applicable to anything other than NAMELESS PERFORMANCE parts.
We will not be at the shop Thursday-Friday, but Jason and Ryan will be checking email and chat periodically.
Have a safe and sane Thanksgiving Weekend
-The Nameless Performance Crew"

So yeah buying a gift card could save you some money on this forthcoming header.
Damn, I just put an order in over the phone last Tuesday. A 15% discount would have saved me $183 off of the sub-total!

Heck, it would've saved me more if the headers and Cosworth tune were available. When I asked about them I was told that they were still in the R&D phase

According to their site's order status page my order hasn't even been picked up and started on yet. I wonder if I should cancel and re-order to apply the discount?
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