Another 86 on fire

[ja1217]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

This. Also the reason why.

Some cars have burned due to faulty HPFP replacement. Others had fire damage after setting grass on fire underneath the car (which is no fault of the car).

I haven't seen any just burn for no reason.

This fire sounds like it may be similar to Element Tuning's:

[ame]http://youtu.be/Yhbi7EE2H3o[/ame]

The Element Tuning Time Attack FRS was winning all year long but we've been suffering overheating issues. Even though we had been making improvements to cooling it wasn't until the UTCC that we discovered a pinhole leak that only surfaces under racing conditions. We dumped a bottle of "radiator stop leak" in there an hoped for the best. We got the worst case scenario! We suspect with all the overheating issues over the last 12 races that the head gasket had been compromised. As the engine overheated the Hydra EMS would always detune the engine and put it into "limp" mode. When the radiator leak sealed up and the pressure increased full power was restored and we think the head gasket blew, the engine hydrolocked, and the rod exited the motor causing an oil fire.

[Frost]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Some cars have burned due to faulty HPFP replacement. Others had fire damage after setting grass on fire underneath the car (which is no fault of the car).

I haven't seen any just burn for no reason.

This, this is what I live for.

There's nothing quite like the pangs of satisfaction when I find the root cause of an issue. Although one has to beg why oh why did someone set the grass on fire under a car? Fuel leak? Prank?

I know people were replacing HPFPs due to the crickets and yes, as with any pump, if installed incorrectly will leak and thus you have fuel spray in a hot engine bay which completes all three of the fire triangle.

Let's hope the other thread populates with more concrete information. I highly doubt FRS/BRZ/GT86s are spontaneously combusting in their virgin forms.

One can only hope - I plan on getting a fun car next year and this car is high on the list...

[RAWR BRZ]

I was actually there and his car was by a hose next to where I pitted. It wasn't a bad fire that burnt down a car but it seems like there was some smoke coming out of the engine bay. Didn't talk to him because he seemed pretty pissed.

[Scenic Driver]

Originally Posted by Frost

Although one has to beg why oh why did someone set the grass on fire under a car? Fuel leak? Prank?

Dry grass, hot exhaust, not uncommon.

Another scenario where grass can start a fire is the car goes off track, dry grass gets kicked up and packed above the hot brake parts and ignites.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Frost

There's nothing quite like the pangs of satisfaction when I find the root cause of an issue. Although one has to beg why oh why did someone set the grass on fire under a car? Fuel leak? Prank?

Hot brakes and exhaust over/on dry grass. The cases I've seen/heard about have all been track incidents where a car pulled off due to failure or after wrecking (or parked on a grass paddock). I've set a small amount of grass on fire at Sebring before when I parked after a session in the grass area of the paddock during a drought.. oops!

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Scenic Driver

Dry grass, hot exhaust, not uncommon.

Another scenario where grass can start a fire is the car goes off track, dry grass gets kicked up and packed above the hot brake parts and ignites.

What he said

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by Deadspool

I'll clarify.


If you are informed of the previous car that caught fire recently, you would know it was a piece of aftermarket equipment that failed. Two cars failing, this is only counting the people who actually devote any time to reading these forums and care to post mind you, Is too many.

One, is a shame, Two is becoming suspicious.

I know of at least five. Two were racers that spun into or stopped in dry grass which was ignited by the exhaust but still they burned.

Korean guy on youtube video
Elemental Tuning
Visconti tuned
WolfpackS2K
This one.

There may be more. I remember a picture of a BRZ that was totally burned late last year but do not know the story behind it. Still this is not something that is inherent to these models.

[husker741]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

This. Also the reason why.

Some cars have burned due to faulty HPFP replacement. Others had fire damage after setting grass on fire underneath the car (which is no fault of the car).

I haven't seen any just burn for no reason.

So don't get HPFP replaced unless the dealer has done it before?

[Frost]

Originally Posted by Scenic Driver

Dry grass, hot exhaust, not uncommon.

Another scenario where grass can start a fire is the car goes off track, dry grass gets kicked up and packed above the hot brake parts and ignites.

Thanks to you and Dave-ROR for the explanation.

I was thinking fire as in fire with yellow flames and such. From what you say, it sounds a lot more like lots of smoke (unless this guy drove over a hay stack?).

If that were me, I would've crapped a brick whilst running for an extinguisher.

[Scenic Driver]

Originally Posted by Frost

Thanks to you and Dave-ROR for the explanation.

I was thinking fire as in fire with yellow flames and such. From what you say, it sounds a lot more like lots of smoke (unless this guy drove over a hay stack?).

If that were me, I would've crapped a brick whilst running for an extinguisher.

I mean there could be actual flames. I've been to parks where there were warnings about this, I also saw WolfpackS2K's car after his incident, there were black flame marks on both front fenders (I wasn't going to mention anyone's name but someone else did already).

Low humidity days, especially in areas that are very dry due to little rain, are even worse for this. If you've ever seen a red flag warning in the weather report, that is what they are warning about, the high possibility of wildfires in grassy areas that propagate rapidly.

[Frost]

Originally Posted by Scenic Driver

I mean there could be actual flames. I've been to parks where there were warnings about this, I also saw WolfpackS2K's car after his incident, there were black flame marks on both front fenders (I wasn't going to mention anyone's name but someone else did already).

Low humidity days, especially in areas that are very dry due to little rain, are even worse for this. If you've ever seen a red flag warning in the weather report, that is what they are warning about, the high possibility of wildfires in grassy areas that propagate rapidly.

I've gone camping a few times and I know about the dry alert for fire warnings... never thought the track would be a place to be worried too, thanks for the lesson.

The only track I've been to and driven on was Mosport up here but we parked on tarmac or gravel and it was for the MR2 club meet so it wasn't a full on race event, just people enjoying their cars without any real racing.

The things I learn on the intarwebs...

[juliog]

ICE cars never catch fire. Only EVs do. 'Cause battery packs. Everyone knows that.

/looks sad at Tesla stock