the DI seal and popping solution? - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ft86me · 11-13-2013, 04:02 PM

Please keep the comments about the topic. This thread is about a possible solution or anyone that has heard of updates. Thanks.

CSG Mike · 11-13-2013, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ft86me

Please keep the comments about the topic. This thread is about a possible solution or anyone that has heard of updates. Thanks.

as of now, there is none.

My personal count is 7 cars with "updated" tunes, that have popped DI seals.

AyJay · 11-13-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ft86me

Please keep the comments about the topic. This thread is about a possible solution or anyone that has heard of updates. Thanks.

You are right, I shouldn't waste my breath voicing my displeasure about FR-S/BRZ to you, although I suspect that Toyota/Subaru reps may see these threads at some point and be concerned enough to do something... and we'd end up with the solution we are all after.

I should instead waste my breath commenting directly to Toyota/Subaru about their design flaw and lack of reaction to an issue I'm sure they are well aware of yet choose to play dumb.

Sportsguy83 · 11-13-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

as of now, there is none.

My personal count is 7 cars with "updated" tunes, that have popped DI seals.

7 out of 7 are tracked?

juliog · 11-15-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

as of now, there is none.

My personal count is 7 cars with "updated" tunes, that have popped DI seals.

Would it be possible that the seals in those cars were already almost worn out by the time they were tuned?

Do we know if any 2014 car with the new ECU tune from factory has failed already?

Would a closer gear ratio set (less RPM dropped after upshifts) help mitigate the issue?

Porsche · 11-15-2013, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by juliog

Would it be possible that the seals in those cars were already almost worn out by the time they were tuned?

Do they actually wear? I don't know; I'm asking.

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Do we know if any 2014 car with the new ECU tune from factory has failed already?

That's what I'm wondering, too. About the 2014 models, I mean.

2013 cars with new tunes have failed.

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Would a closer gear ratio set (less RPM dropped after upshifts) help mitigate the issue?

No, that would exacerbate the problem; the problem apparently occurs over 5200 rpm.

CSG Mike · 11-16-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

7 out of 7 are tracked?

3 of the 7 have never seen the track.

CSG Mike · 11-16-2013, 06:04 PM

The problem happens both on and off throttle.... everyone only thinks it happens going ONTO the throttle...

Tainen · 11-18-2013, 07:49 PM

ugh. I bought this to be my track car. maybe I should sell it. Had it for 1 1/2 years now, and this whole time I haven't tracked it fully waiting for a fix. still no fix...

even a couple of autocross days and drivers skills days have me concerned...

feldy · 11-18-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tainen

ugh. I bought this to be my track car. maybe I should sell it. Had it for 1 1/2 years now, and this whole time I haven't tracked it fully waiting for a fix. still no fix...

even a couple of autocross days and drivers skills days have me concerned...

I have over 400 Autocross runs no issues. Yet knocking on wood

CSG Mike · 11-18-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tainen

ugh. I bought this to be my track car. maybe I should sell it. Had it for 1 1/2 years now, and this whole time I haven't tracked it fully waiting for a fix. still no fix...

even a couple of autocross days and drivers skills days have me concerned...

1st time issues seem to USUALLY be covered, so just track it, and then after you need to warranty it once.... sell it?

Or, consider it part of the expense of tracking.

As always, YMMV.

TeamZleep · 11-18-2013, 08:23 PM

When it blows up, I'm going to put my new replacement engine up for sale to fund an EJ swap. Those have their issues, but they're not this bad.

ft86me · 11-18-2013, 08:54 PM

It's crazy hks some cars don't get it. Evasive hasn't had that problem and they ran pikes peak with 400hp under the hood. I'll still be doing my replacements mid December along w the pulley upgrade and fuel injector upgrades along w fuel pump. It'll be on the dyno at evasive too so hopefully no pop lolol.

smbstyle · 11-18-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TemeCal

I know of 2 people with the supposed EcuTek "fix", have their seals pop. Me being one of them. I had 2 seals go out before the "fix". I updated my tune with the EcuTek "fix", and STILL had 2 more seals disintegrate on me.

I use quotes around "fix", because I personally don't think the "fix" did jack to help this issue. I'm sure you know who the 2nd person is, but I don't feel I should comment on that.

Are you running 91 octane or 93?

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ft86me Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 FRS Location: Endor Posts: 1,231 Thanks: 802 Thanked 349 Times in 212 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s)	Please keep the comments about the topic. This thread is about a possible solution or anyone that has heard of updates. Thanks.

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ft86me Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 FRS Location: Endor Posts: 1,231 Thanks: 802 Thanked 349 Times in 212 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s)	It's crazy hks some cars don't get it. Evasive hasn't had that problem and they ran pikes peak with 400hp under the hood. I'll still be doing my replacements mid December along w the pulley upgrade and fuel injector upgrades along w fuel pump. It'll be on the dyno at evasive too so hopefully no pop lolol.

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