Coilover choice, Tein SRC or Ohlins R&T

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by diss7

Reviving from the dead; but I'm in the same position - stuck between these two choices for similar reasons as the OP.

Any new info / arguments / opinions appreciated.

They are two totally different systems. TEIN SRC is 2-way compression and rebound adjustable. The Ohlins R&T is 1-way adjustable rebound. If you are looking for a 1-way setup, then Ohlins R&T is one of the best offerings on the market. The 1-way takes most of that headache away and allows you to worry about 1 adjustment in the system. The 2-way allows for more fine tuning and is more beneficial in the right hands. While the extra adjustments suits us better, it's not beneficial to those who are not experienced in dialing a 2-way damper setup. If the user is not knowledgeable in suspension tuning, the suspension setup can make your car handle or ride horribly.

TEIN SRC is your gateway to a legitimate motorsports suspension. Ohlins 2-way setup will use their motorsports technology and is on the magnitude of 6 to 10k depending on the type of technology you would like to pay for (obviously it comes down to cost). We have conversed with Ohlins about a collaboration regarding this setup and can make this possible if there is genuine commitment from the community. Contact us if you would like to have a genuine commitment to this setup. We need several commitments to make this happen.

[OICU812]

Based on what you are doing sounds like you should talk to CSG David or Mike about JRZ coils.

[diss7]

Originally Posted by CSG David

They are two totally different systems. TEIN SRC is 2-way compression and rebound adjustable. The Ohlins R&T is 1-way adjustable rebound. If you are looking for a 1-way setup, then Ohlins R&T is one of the best offerings on the market. The 1-way takes most of that headache away and allows you to worry about 1 adjustment in the system. The 2-way allows for more fine tuning and is more beneficial in the right hands. While the extra adjustments suits us better, it's not beneficial to those who are not experienced in dialing a 2-way damper setup. If the user is not knowledgeable in suspension tuning, the suspension setup can make your car handle or ride horribly.

TEIN SRC is your gateway to a legitimate motorsports suspension. Ohlins 2-way setup will use their motorsports technology and is on the magnitude of 6 to 10k depending on the type of technology you would like to pay for (obviously it comes down to cost). We have conversed with Ohlins about a collaboration regarding this setup and can make this possible if there is genuine commitment from the community. Contact us if you would like to have a genuine commitment to this setup. We need several commitments to make this happen.

Realistically, that's more than I'd like to spend. I could swallow the 3.5k - 4k of the two setups mentioned.

I've not had a 2 way adjustable setup before, but in saying that I'd like to think that given a starting point, then I'd soon be able to fine tune. I have seen another one of csg's threads on the src's and there was some recommended settings.

I'm really looking for something that is 90% track, running semi slicks, and can be street driven on road tyres; but would forego some NVH and street comfort for track performance.

But, I want a quality product. I've already had some coils (teins funnily enough) and wasn't happy with them, so sold them and am back at stock. They were one of the cheapest tein sets, so I don't blame the brand; I got what I paid for.

[bkblitzed]

imo rce tarmac 2's>

[diss7]

Originally Posted by bkblitzed

imo rce tarmac 2's>

No dealer support in New Zealand, so not an option.

[bkblitzed]

Originally Posted by diss7

No dealer support in New Zealand, so not an option.

what about bilstein or kw's?

[diss7]

Originally Posted by bkblitzed

what about bilstein or kw's?

There is bilstein support.

I like the teins as the have camber adjustment in the front, and I believe the springs rates are such that it negate the need for aftermarket swaybars.

[whataboutbob]

KWv3s have a lifetime warranty BTW.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by whataboutbob

KWv3s have a lifetime warranty BTW.

He'll want something firmer than KW V3. He'd want Clubsports (either RCE or KW) but servicing in Oz isn't as easy.

I love the Ohlins R&T, but if it's 90% track, then the Tein SRC would be a better choice.

JRZ would be a great option but likely past his budget.

- Andy

[whataboutbob]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

He'll want something firmer than KW V3. He'd want Clubsports (either RCE or KW) but servicing in Oz isn't as easy.

I love the Ohlins R&T, but if it's 90% track, then the Tein SRC would be a better choice.

JRZ would be a great option but likely past his budget.

- Andy

I was thinking of the KWv3s myself, maybe I'll have to get the RCE T2s http://www.racecompengineering.com/i...-brz-fr-s.html?

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by whataboutbob

I was thinking of the KWv3s myself, maybe I'll have to get the RCE T2s http://www.racecompengineering.com/i...-brz-fr-s.html?

Basically you get Clubsports at V3 pricing. And a lifetime warranty. Give us a call sometime.

- Andy

[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by CSG David

We have conversed with Ohlins about a collaboration regarding this setup and can make this possible if there is genuine commitment from the community. Contact us if you would like to have a genuine commitment to this setup. We need several commitments to make this happen.

I'm quite curious about this myself. Feel free to pm me w/ further details or start a thread if haven't already.

[kuhlka]

Tein EDFC would make switching compression settings stupidly simple from inside the car. IMO, unless you're going into pro racing, why not just get the Mono Flex with EDFC?

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by Boxer486

I'm quite curious about this myself. Feel free to pm me w/ further details or start a thread if haven't already.

The talks started recently as there has been some growing interest to find out just how good of a suspension kit can be discovered for this platform. Ohlins is interested in us helping development, but they obviously have not pursued due to the type of market they are working with. If the community does not have issues with cost, then obviously we wouldn't have to worry too much right?

Originally Posted by kuhlka

Tein EDFC would make switching compression settings stupidly simple from inside the car. IMO, unless you're going into pro racing, why not just get the Mono Flex with EDFC?

EDFC is sweet, however, you don't have to be a pro racer to use motorsport grade coilovers. There is significant benefits using motorsport grade kits. A few key engineered points include reliability of components, tolerances, engineered for abuse, high quality valving which equates to BETTER ride quality, extremely high quality fabrication and manufacturing of components with strict QA involved (takes money to pay people to do this).

Originally Posted by diss7

There is bilstein support.

I like the teins as the have camber adjustment in the front, and I believe the springs rates are such that it negate the need for aftermarket swaybars.

Bilstein is one of the best companies out there, but like any other great company, they have multiple tiers of suspension kits available. You can kind of say their B16 kit is similar to the Ohlins R&T, but I'd nod towards the Ohlins for extreme build quality and rep. Both are pimp regardless.

The motorsports kits will have quality camber plates that make up a large part of the cost of the kits. The spring rates for the TEIN SRCs are designed with a variety of tires in mind (from EHP to slicks) and have the ability to utilize multiple spring rates without revalving (the beauty of 2-way coilovers). If you plan to bring swaybars to change the spring characteristics of the vehicle, that 2-way will allow you to fine tune as necessary to get exactly what you're looking for. Obviously 3-way and 4-way shocks have more adjustments to fine tune that setup.

Originally Posted by diss7

Realistically, that's more than I'd like to spend. I could swallow the 3.5k - 4k of the two setups mentioned.

I've not had a 2 way adjustable setup before, but in saying that I'd like to think that given a starting point, then I'd soon be able to fine tune. I have seen another one of csg's threads on the src's and there was some recommended settings.

I'm really looking for something that is 90% track, running semi slicks, and can be street driven on road tyres; but would forego some NVH and street comfort for track performance.

But, I want a quality product. I've already had some coils (teins funnily enough) and wasn't happy with them, so sold them and am back at stock. They were one of the cheapest tein sets, so I don't blame the brand; I got what I paid for.

TEIN SRCs can do 8k-12k front springs and 10k-14k rear springs. We have tested up to 15k rear springs on EHP tires before as well. The valving is superior compared to the current offerings that will allow you to dial the suspension to your driving style and application. We are currently developing a CSG Spec'd SRC.