FA20Club Turbo Kit Owners Topic

[ecko04]

Originally Posted by pixel67

My car was in the shop when the fitment issue was noticed. They took pictures, spoke with Toni, and he overnighted another downpipe so we lost less than 24 hours on the project. Shops typically only charge you for the time they actually spend working on your car and not storing it while waiting for parts to arrive.

I guess my perspective was different. I was counting on them having it for 3-4 days so this additional time, while bothersome, really didn't delay me getting the car back. So, I would offer the same advice to others if you are having other shops do the install. Hope for the shortest time but plan for them to have your car a few days. I rented a yaris for a few days and factored it into the cost of my project as I HAD to drive something. After spending several grand, an extra $40 bucks is nothing...

You misunderstood the point. I didn't say Toni wouldn't address the issue. We had our fair share of them and Toni took care of them as I said in my post.

The shop won't charge for storage, depending on how long it'll be there, but we don't know what the customer planned on doing with the car or how much time was allocated.

Is it his daily driver? Maybe he's headed somewhere? Maybe it'll take a week to get a UEL, if it needs to be replaced? Maybe Evasive has other vehicles coming in that are scheduled and this particular job wasn't supposed to take as long and may need the space?

It's many varying perspectives that play a role. Maybe the customer opts to have the vehicle restored to factory while awaiting the parts to arrive and will come back at a later date to have them installed. All of this takes time and Evasive would want to be paid for something whether the system was fully installed or restored to factory. Time is money and once we start working.

A UEL is an altogether different beast than the downpipe. If the problem is with the UEL as he alluded to then that's a problem. Hopefully it's not a major fabrication fix that needs to take place and it's minimal, something that Evasive can quickly knock out. However, if it's major does the customer want to wait for Toni to have his welder fab up another? How long will that wait be after he has already waited months? Would it be quicker even if it costs more to have Evasive solve the problems?

All questions that none of us know the answer to but they factor in especially after waiting awhile to receive the system.

[pixel67]

Originally Posted by ecko04

You misunderstood the point. The shop won't charge for storage, depending on how long it'll be there, but we don't know what the customer planned on doing with the car. Is it his daily driver? Maybe he's headed somewhere? Maybe it'll take a week to get a UEL, if it needs to be replaced? Maybe Evasive has other vehicles coming in that are scheduled and this particular job wasn't supposed to take as long?

It's many varying perspectives that play a role. Maybe the customer opts to have the vehicle restored to factory while awaiting the parts to arrive and will come back at a later date to have them installed. All of this takes time and Evasive would want to be paid for something whether the system was fully installed or restored to factory. Time is money and once we start working.

A UEL is an altogether different beast than the downpipe. If the problem is with the UEL as he alluded to then that's a problem. Hopefully it's not a major fabrication fix that needs to take place and it's minimal, something that Evasive can quickly knock out.

No, I understand your point. We really don't know what expectations were set or circumstances were for him as he hasn't provided that level of detail.

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Funny thing is Toni is no where to be found, even the shop tried contacting him. lets assume his busy with sema and @Frs300, but he also wasn't their when it took over 3 months to get our parts. Id rather have a shop fab the parts to fit then have issues all over again with parts arriving.

[pixel67]

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

Funny thing is Toni is no where to be found, even the shop tried contacting him. lets assume his busy with sema and @Frs300, but he also wasn't their when it took over 3 months to get our parts. Id rather have a shop fab the parts to fit then have issues all over again with parts arriving.

I just chatted with him last night and purchased a catted front pipe so he is around...

That's the same decision i had to make and i chose to wait. Hopefully it won't impact you terribly.

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Last post of me bashing or ranting and ill let the picture do the talking. Toni seems to do great tuning, and amazing fabing to his locals. He is just not big enough to manage and keep up with the demand


FA20UEL Amazing Fitment by smsalsuwaidi, on Flickr

Peace

[pixel67]

I didn't think you were bashing and ranting. Just stating a problem you were having and there is nothing wrong with that. Keep calling him... It's a 2 guy show there and he doesn't monitor the forums in search of issues. Your picture is more than a fitment issue as i was expecting a few mm gap, it is a design implementation issue. Hate to see it but hope you can get it resolved.

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by pixel67

I didn't think you were bashing and ranting. Just stating a problem you were having and there is nothing wrong with that. Keep calling him... It's a 2 guy show there and he doesn't monitor the forums in search of issues. Your picture is more than a fitment issue as i was expecting a few mm gap, it is a design implementation issue. Hate to see it but hope you can get it resolved.

Yeah, We are trying to widen the flange's holes and see. Even then its going to be putting stress on the whole head . A few more issues also ended up popping and it would've been nice if Toni answered and helped us with it. Guess he'll answer back and help with the rest, lets hope

[Dan@AWD]

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

Last post of me bashing or ranting and ill let the picture do the talking. Toni seems to do great tuning, and amazing fabing to his locals. He is just not big enough to manage and keep up with the demand


FA20UEL Amazing Fitment by smsalsuwaidi, on Flickr

Peace

Mine was like that until I repositioned it around some. You can't put on one side and expect the other side to just slide on. I remember my arms getting tired getting mine on also because I had to make sure both sides were evenly sliding on the same. I think this is an installer issue based on my own install experience. Also, I don't see how that is possible as the header / manifold flanges are bolted down to a jig before the welding, so ALL should be the same. From the 1st one to the last one made on the same jig will all be the same.

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[ecko04]

Originally Posted by Dan@AWD

Mine was like that until I repositioned it around some. You can't put on one side and expect the other side to just slide on. I remember my arms getting tired getting mine on also because I had to make sure both sides were evenly sliding on tge same. I think this is an installer issue based on my own install experience. Also, I don't see how that is possible as the header / manifold flanges are bolted down to a jig before the welding, so ALL should be the sam. From the 1st one to the last one made on the same jig will all be the same.

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And it's a tight fit too. I lined mine up then used a rubber mallet to push it up against the studs but this looks really off. I don't think it'll work like it's currently designed.

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by Dan@AWD

Mine was like that until I repositioned it around some. You can't put on one side and expect the other side to just slide on. I remember my arms getting tired getting mine on also because I had to make sure both sides were evenly sliding on the same. I think this is an installer issue based on my own install experience. Also, I don't see how that is possible as the header / manifold flanges are bolted down to a jig before the welding, so ALL should be the same. From the 1st one to the last one made on the same jig will all be the same.

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i got pictures of the other side and its way off too . I know if it should be all the same but beats me

[lbroskee]

Originally Posted by Dan@AWD

Mine was like that until I repositioned it around some. You can't put on one side and expect the other side to just slide on. I remember my arms getting tired getting mine on also because I had to make sure both sides were evenly sliding on the same. I think this is an installer issue based on my own install experience. Also, I don't see how that is possible as the header / manifold flanges are bolted down to a jig before the welding, so ALL should be the same. From the 1st one to the last one made on the same jig will all be the same.

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ah that 1st time fa20club header install.... it was such a bitch! but i had to remove em later to install a pulley and they went back on easy as hell. so either i was retarded or the headers settled to the car

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Well I feel like if something was built properly it should fit just like the oem one , hell even the borla slides one properly. Guess fitment differs from an individual to another.

[ecko04]

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

Well I feel like if something was built properly it should fit just like the oem one , hell even the borla slides one properly. Guess fitment differs from an individual to another.

reoccurring theme?

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by ecko04

reoccurring theme?

Huh?