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Old 11-04-2013, 04:51 PM   #1
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Autocar: Ferrari F12 Berlinetta vs Toyota GT86 - which is more fun?

They're both handsome, reasonably practical cars. They both have an engine in the front sending power to the rear wheels. And while the Ferrari F12 Berlinetta will hit 211mph, the GT86 will 'only' reach 140mph. But the thing we're interested in is this: can a £240,000 supercar thrill its drivers on track more than a £25,000 Toyota? Matt Prior takes both to Snetterton to find out.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTDtUG-rVfA"]Ferrari F12 Berlinetta vs Toyota GT86 - which is more fun? - YouTube[/ame]
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Old 11-04-2013, 05:03 PM   #2
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Really? Really? Come on now. I get that they are comparing the relative value of the two cars(is the F12 worth 10x the price) but seriously, let not compare apples to alligators.
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Really? Really? Come on now. I get that they are comparing the relative value of the two cars(is the F12 worth 10x the price) but seriously, let not compare apples to alligators.
I'm secretly being proud of driving a car that's being compare to a similar car that costs 10X.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:23 PM   #4
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Really? Really? Come on now. I get that they are comparing the relative value of the two cars(is the F12 worth 10x the price) but seriously, let not compare apples to alligators.
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I understand that the FRS is the new kid on the block and all, but .. not the same league here, is it?
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:38 PM   #5
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In other news, let's compare the 911 GT3 to the original VW beetle (hey, they're both rear engine, right?), and an MR2 to a Ferrari 458...
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So silly. I'm not naive enough to think that if I had enough money to buy and maintain an F12 that I would pick a GT86 over it. I would, however take some petty cash out of the ol' "offshore accounts" to buy a GT86 if I felt like having a plaything to go along with my monster from Maranello.
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Get both!! The option list on this F12 Berlinetta is enough for 2~3 GT86's.

http://jalopnik.com/ferrari-will-cha...upho-898949796

So the real question: Is a GT86 more fun than a F12 Berlinetta's cup holder, dash insert, rear bench trim and driver zone LEDs?
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I understand that the FRS is the new kid on the block and all, but .. not the same league here, is it?
Its in the same league for most of us in that you can drive the wheels off your BRZ/FRS with a relatively low level of skill. Try that in an F12 and you'd better leave the electronics fully on.

Many, maybe even most people who would buy the F12 really cannot drive it.

These two cars compare exactly if the decision is to be made on fun to drive.

Make no mistake, the F12 is a monster car with capabilities beyond the skills of most of us. Just about anyone can drive the BRZ to and beyond its limits with very little experience of the car.

Now, you will very quickly want to fit better tires to your BRZ and shortly after that a supercharger (come ON Toyota you KNOW you have one that will work just fine, issue the kit for gosh sakes ).
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Its in the same league for most of us in that you can drive the wheels off your BRZ/FRS with a relatively low level of skill. Try that in an F12 and you'd better leave the electronics fully on.

Many, maybe even most people who would buy the F12 really cannot drive it.

These two cars compare exactly if the decision is to be made on fun to drive.

Make no mistake, the F12 is a monster car with capabilities beyond the skills of most of us. Just about anyone can drive the BRZ to and beyond its limits with very little experience of the car.

Now, you will very quickly want to fit better tires to your BRZ and shortly after that a supercharger (come ON Toyota you KNOW you have one that will work just fine, issue the kit for gosh sakes ).
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here. You're saying they're in the same league as far as the "fun" factor goes, but you say the F12 (obviously) isn't as easy to drive?

I must admit I'm a bit confused

That being said, my point is: Comparing is about which is best in a certain category. I'm pretty sure everybody on this forum would still choose the F12 over the BRZ. I know I would.
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..... they just making this to generate hits, don't fall for the trap.
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i think everyone just feels that this car is comparable to anything on the market which is a compliment, even if it is a whole other league. Many manufacturers seem to feel a threat by this car underpowered humble presence that every car comparison is made up of cars with more way more hp
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Agreed. I think it's a compliment. Keep it coming! Fun to see 2 great cars together. Don't be so insecure guys!
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..... they just making this to generate hits, don't fall for the trap.
Even so, it's a glowing result for the Toyobaru
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Funny story, I actually saw one of these yesterday. A very nice car!
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