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Dezoris · 10-27-2013, 05:23 PM

FA20Club Phoenix Dyno Day Results and Interviews

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Arizona there land of heat where, Toni from FA20Club was flown-in to tune naturally aspirated, Innovate and Vortech Supercharged FR-S and BRZ. Fuel, tuning and heat clearly dictated the success of modifying this car.

We interview Toni the owner of FA20Club along with Vortech owner and Innovate Owners.

Traveling:

Traveling to Phoenix the Westin Hotel was top notch on the executive floor where I had men giving me personal massage.

Breakfast was amazing at from a Chicago based eatery named Province.
If you live in the area this place is the real deal.

After Breakfast I requested that my toilet paper be folded for maximum debris removal.

The Dyno Day

Marin @nelsmar had his shit together, this was the most organized dyno day I had seen to date at Goodspeed Performance in Scottsdale.

After watching and hearing stories it was clear the 91 Octane in AZ is bad for tuning. Toni's more aggressive style of tuning required more restraint and time to get right using 91. Once he got things dialed in, things started to run more smoothly.

If you are plan on running higher HP and timing advance you can forget the 91 in this region as you will be forced to run E85 for stability.

Dyno Plots:

Automatic Baseline Dyno:

Innovate 91 Octane

Innovate E85 Tune Larger In Tank Pump and Port Injectors:

Vortech E85 Tune with Smaller Pulley, Larger In Tank Pump and Port Injectors:

Conclusion:

After speaking to the shop owners, car owners and Toni I had a much better understanding of the things that worked on this car and many things that did not. Much of modifying modern cars comes down to tuning and trial and error.
@FA20Club.com @evo4g63 @nelsmar @Brian@Vortech @mines13

Dezoris · 10-27-2013, 05:32 PM

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ft86me · 10-27-2013, 05:57 PM

you make fantastic videos! thanks for bringing toni into the pic! Good to see who we are workin with!Keep up the great work!

FR-S Matt · 10-27-2013, 06:08 PM

Toni made my car come alive with the 93 octane remote tune. Feels great! I can't wait to log some more with the JDL UEL and see if his magic pushes me to 200 whp. Hefty goal....

Dezoris · 10-28-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Toni made my car come alive with the 93 octane remote tune. Feels great! I can't wait to log some more with the JDL UEL and see if his magic pushes me to 200 whp. Hefty goal....

JDL shows results how is the sound?

FR-S Matt · 10-28-2013, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris

JDL shows results how is the sound?

I'll know this weekend.

Arrives on Wednesday.

Dezoris · 10-28-2013, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

I'll know this weekend.

Arrives on Wednesday.

damn that looks nice.

sw20kosh · 10-28-2013, 07:45 PM

That is the most brutal dyno I have ever seen. If I am not mistaken that thing looks to read 30% lower than the typical dyno jet lol. 117 whp stock? Holy...

The % increases, even with the heat and bad gas are astonishing!

80% increase in whp for Innovate E85?
145% increase in whp for Vortech High Boost E85?

Sivtec · 10-28-2013, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

That is the most brutal dyno I have ever seen. If I am not mistaken that thing looks to read 30% lower than the typical dyno jet lol. 117 whp stock? Holy...

The % increases, even with the heat and bad gas are astonishing!

80% increase in whp for Innovate E85?
145% increase in whp for Vortech High Boost E85?

Please note that this was on a Maha Dyno as well. One of the more consistent Dyno's but they also read the lowest as well. The type of Dyno greatly effects the outcome.

This is why we absolutely needed a baseline as well.

sw20kosh · 10-28-2013, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sivtec

Please note that this was on a Maha Dyno as well. One of the more consistent Dyno's but they also read the lowest as well. The type of Dyno greatly effects the outcome.

This is why we absolutely needed a baseline as well.

Yep I am no stranger to Maha dynos. Stock BRZ registers 124 whp on the maha dyno here.

evo4g63 · 10-28-2013, 09:18 PM

This dyno to most is a heart breaker but does read true numbers.

Bonks86 · 10-28-2013, 09:36 PM

How About Some JDL Donuts?
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY4cFzp2vb4&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]FRS JDL UEL donuts - YouTube[/ame]

Dezoris · 10-28-2013, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

That is the most brutal dyno I have ever seen. If I am not mistaken that thing looks to read 30% lower than the typical dyno jet lol. 117 whp stock? Holy...

The % increases, even with the heat and bad gas are astonishing!

80% increase in whp for Innovate E85?
145% increase in whp for Vortech High Boost E85?

Yeah its odd but lets face it it was also around 100F as well. The only good thing is that most of all the cars had consistent results excellent for comparing numbers.

Dezoris · 10-28-2013, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonks86

How About Some JDL Donuts?

That has some throat.

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Dezoris Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: IL Posts: 2,857 Thanks: 519 Thanked 2,998 Times in 1,095 Posts Mentioned: 159 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	FA20Club Interviews \| Dynos, Video and Impressions FA20Club Phoenix Dyno Day Results and Interviews [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7HjRadtXIg"]FA20Club Tuning Dialogs FR-S BRZ \| Interviews and Testing - YouTube[/ame] Arizona there land of heat where, Toni from FA20Club was flown-in to tune naturally aspirated, Innovate and Vortech Supercharged FR-S and BRZ. Fuel, tuning and heat clearly dictated the success of modifying this car. We interview Toni the owner of FA20Club along with Vortech owner and Innovate Owners. Traveling: Traveling to Phoenix the Westin Hotel was top notch on the executive floor where I had men giving me personal massage. Breakfast was amazing at from a Chicago based eatery named Province. If you live in the area this place is the real deal. After Breakfast I requested that my toilet paper be folded for maximum debris removal. The Dyno Day Marin @nelsmar had his shit together, this was the most organized dyno day I had seen to date at Goodspeed Performance in Scottsdale. After watching and hearing stories it was clear the 91 Octane in AZ is bad for tuning. Toni's more aggressive style of tuning required more restraint and time to get right using 91. Once he got things dialed in, things started to run more smoothly. If you are plan on running higher HP and timing advance you can forget the 91 in this region as you will be forced to run E85 for stability. Dyno Plots: Automatic Baseline Dyno: Innovate 91 Octane Innovate E85 Tune Larger In Tank Pump and Port Injectors: Vortech E85 Tune with Smaller Pulley, Larger In Tank Pump and Port Injectors: Conclusion: After speaking to the shop owners, car owners and Toni I had a much better understanding of the things that worked on this car and many things that did not. Much of modifying modern cars comes down to tuning and trial and error. @FA20Club.com @evo4g63 @nelsmar @Brian@Vortech @mines13 __________________ SAVAGEGEESE

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