Michigan BRZ/FRS Random Chat and spotted thread.

[DKPJester]

Originally Posted by Sevs753

foglights? My foglight switch is in the exact same spot.

Yep! Pretty excited to get mine installed. Don't the BRZs come with fogs?

[Sevs753]

Originally Posted by DKPJester

Yep! Pretty excited to get mine installed. Don't the BRZs come with fogs?

They're standard on the Limited, optional on the premium. I have the premium but got the foglight option, hence the foglight switch not being in the turn signal stalk like the limited.

[DKPJester]

Originally Posted by Sevs753

They're standard on the Limited, optional on the premium. I have the premium but got the foglight option, hence the foglight switch not being in the turn signal stalk like the limited.

So it's there from the factory?

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[Sevs753]

Originally Posted by DKPJester

So it's there from the factory?

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From what I heard from the dealer, it was added "at the port", like other major dealer add-ons. Probably explains why the drivers side foglight doesn't sit right in the socket...

[ramiel]

Got condensation in the driver's side tail light

Guess I'll have to make a trip up to the dealer to get it replaced.

[Accurate Race Shop]

Originally Posted by ramiel

Got condensation in the driver's side tail light

Guess I'll have to make a trip up to the dealer to get it replaced.

I put a bead of silicone around mine when I had them out and they never got condensation. It's a 30 minute job they are really easy to get out and it saves all the time and hassle of trips to the dealership.

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[Sccabrz192]

The condensation has typically been caused by one of the mounting feet cracking. In my opinion, as long as my car is under warranty I'd prefer to have it replaced with a OE genuine part and hopefully they'll start stocking one with an actual design fix rather than band-aid the leak... my driver side is now leaking very slightly after I had my passenger side one relaced in the spring time.

[Sevs753]

So i want to focus my mods over the winter to be better suited for AutoX. I want to stay in RTR for now so my mod choices are a bit limited. So far, I'm planning on better tires and wheels to go along with them (225 tires, same spec as stock wheels) and better brake pads.

I'm also thinking about upgrading a sway bar. I don't know much of anything when it comes to sway bars but i know that I can only upgrade one bar if I want to stay in RTR. Any suggestion on what bar to get? I would like to dial out some of the understeer I experienced this year.

Somewhat related, I know the FRS is a bit more tail happy compared to the BRZ. Is that because of the sway bars? I think i would like it if I could get the suspension setup of the FRS.

[kask2_6.0]

The sway bars are the same between the frs and brz. The spring rates are different between the two. The frs has a softer front spring and a stiffer rear that causes the oversteer.

[BRZfan]

I've been following the 'Ohio Route 555/26' thread. The group seems to have a successful participation in several road trips per year. Granted, Ohio has some very nice roads throughout the state for making best use of a BRZ relative to what Michigan has with their hills and river routes.

Question: Is there any interest that us Michiganders may have for road trips like those that would take most of a day, for instance??

For example: Circumnavigate the Detroit and/or St. Clair rivers - a Canadian/Michigan trip -Detroit/Windsor/Sarnia/Port Huron/Detroit.
I will plan one if there is at least 4-5 participants.

[DKPJester]

Originally Posted by BRZfan

Question: Is there any interest that us Michiganders may have for road trips like those that would take most of a day, for instance??

Absolutely. Our best meets are the few where we've gone for a drive. It's a cool feeling rolling out with all the cars


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[Sccabrz192]

Originally Posted by Sevs753

So i want to focus my mods over the winter to be better suited for AutoX. I want to stay in RTR for now so my mod choices are a bit limited. So far, I'm planning on better tires and wheels to go along with them (225 tires, same spec as stock wheels) and better brake pads.

I'm also thinking about upgrading a sway bar. I don't know much of anything when it comes to sway bars but i know that I can only upgrade one bar if I want to stay in RTR. Any suggestion on what bar to get? I would like to dial out some of the understeer I experienced this year.

Somewhat related, I know the FRS is a bit more tail happy compared to the BRZ. Is that because of the sway bars? I think i would like it if I could get the suspension setup of the FRS.

Just a reminder, you will be in "C-Street" next season, rather than RTR... as the class changes have been made official.


I'm doing the same.... posted my winter plan on the NWOR site... so I'll copy it here...

Originally Posted by sccabrz192

Already on the koni's with the OE crash bolts....

still need to acquire:
17x7 RPF1's with proper street tires (leaning RS-3)
Strano FSB
indecisive on the brake pad I will run
likely a muffler delete to lose a few lbs.
an alignment

You commented you experience "understeer", what type of surfaces were you running on this year and what tires? I'd suggest this is probably more to do with driving technique and entry speeds than car set up.

Like kask said, the difference is in the spring rates, which is not legal in RTR/Street to swap.

With that said, a stiffer RSB will induce more oversteer. However, fair warning, it's going to be excessive on throttle and in transition... and if you are hard charging entries, it will not prevent the car from understeering on turn-in. A stiffer FSB will tend to push more on throttle and in transition. I feel one of the weak areas of the car is it pendulums too much in transitions, making it very difficult to keep applying power in slaloms. Additional rebound damping in the rear (care of koni dampers) and a moderate increase in FSB rate should clear that up without ruining the rest of the car's balance. I'd recommend going with a FSB that is only slightly stiffer than stock (The Strano bar seems to be a good ticket).

[Sevs753]

Originally Posted by Sccabrz192

Just a reminder, you will be in "C-Street" next season, rather than RTR... as the class changes have been made official.

Do you have a link to the rules that apply to that class? I can never seem to find a list of what exactly is allowed for each class.

Originally Posted by Sccabrz192

I'm doing the same.... posted my winter plan on the NWOR site... so I'll copy it here...



You commented you experience "understeer", what type of surfaces were you running on this year and what tires? I'd suggest this is probably more to do with driving technique and entry speeds than car set up.

Like kask said, the difference is in the spring rates, which is not legal in RTR/Street to swap.

With that said, a stiffer RSB will induce more oversteer. However, fair warning, it's going to be excessive on throttle and in transition... and if you are hard charging entries, it will not prevent the car from understeering on turn-in. A stiffer FSB will tend to push more on throttle and in transition. I feel one of the weak areas of the car is it pendulums too much in transitions, making it very difficult to keep applying power in slaloms. Additional rebound damping in the rear (care of koni dampers) and a moderate increase in FSB rate should clear that up without ruining the rest of the car's balance. I'd recommend going with a FSB that is only slightly stiffer than stock (The Strano bar seems to be a good ticket).

The understeer was mostly when I ran on belle isle. Also, i was on the stock primacy HP tires. Planning on getting a set of Dunlop ZII's for next year. I didn't notice much understeer at the silverdome but I wasn't pushing as hard at the silverdome as I was at belle isle.

So even though the FRS and BRZ are basically the same car, it would still change my class if I just put the FRS springs on my BRZ? I wasn't going to do that but it seems a little weird to me.

[DKPJester]

Hey @eikond

http://jalopnik.com/nissan-to-show-a...ore-1447701729

Japanese sports car rivalry might be kicking back up. Pony car wars at full tilt. C7 is being called the best sports car America has produced. Alfa back in sports cars. It's a good time to be a car enthusiast.