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loogs · 10-16-2013, 09:45 PM

i think it looks awesome. im all over this

thill · 10-16-2013, 10:01 PM

This is very interesting to say the least. The amount of testing without additional mods is what has my interest. I am not going to heavily track my car, and the numbers on this mod like perfect for me. I was not looking to dump a ton of money in additional mods outside of better tires.

Couple questions. I know this has been tested in Colorado in the Winter, but any concerns with -30F degree temperatures like we have here in MN? I would expect not, but I am not sure I want to be a test mule either..

Also, do they have tunes for 85 and 93 grade gas? I can get either pretty easy near me.

djliquidsteele · 10-16-2013, 10:46 PM

All I want to know is how much HP max and is the C38 compatible with the system and our car.

dgtlmn · 10-16-2013, 11:15 PM

Just since I don't really know...what's the difference about a system like this built for manual vs automatic? Is it all in the tune applied? I'm guessing it's all based on the gearing differences between the two, but really don't know for sure. If this system was made for an auto, wouldn't it be all the same 'hardware' and just different 'software'?

pheoxs · 10-16-2013, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dgtlmn

Just since I don't really know...what's the difference about a system like this built for manual vs automatic? Is it all in the tune applied? I'm guessing it's all based on the gearing differences between the two, but really don't know for sure. If this system was made for an auto, wouldn't it be all the same 'hardware' and just different 'software'?

Yeah its all just in the tune. Initially Vortech was the same, only had tunes for manual cars. If you had an auto you had to go to one of the aftermarket tuners (FA20Club / Perrin / Car-b-que). Now though they have both, just a matter of R&D

Ricochet48 · 10-17-2013, 12:14 AM

I'm also in interested what this kit will do with I/H/E and a shorter pulley. 275 seems reachable?

I hope that JR would provide some sort of upgrade route. For instance, if you bought their tune then they released a stage II with a shorter pulley designed with bolt on's, that you'd be able to get the tune at a discount. Only time will tell. I wish the car would have came closer like this from the factory, but the aftermarket is really holding up quite well!

OrbitalEllipses · 10-17-2013, 02:38 AM

The hot air intake still bothers me.

CSG Mike · 10-17-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

The hot air intake still bothers me.

IAT is lower than stock

ft_sjo · 10-17-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

IAT is lower than stock

Does it use liquid nitrogen cooling or something?

ATL BRZ · 10-17-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

IAT is lower than stock

oh snap!

thill · 10-17-2013, 11:30 AM

jamesm · 10-17-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ft_sjo

Does it use liquid nitrogen cooling or something?

it has an intercooler. my intake is in the front bumper, so not quite the same, but i see intake temps a few degrees above or even sometimes below ambient with my turbo and intercooler.

buditjoenawan · 10-17-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ft_sjo

Does it use liquid nitrogen cooling or something?

It depends on when and where you take the reading. The only time I'm interested in IATs is when the motor is seeing load (ie, intent to accelerate) and as close to the heads as possible; and unless the compressed air passes through liquid nitrogen or has an inverse relationship to reality, compressed air can never be cooler than non-compressed air. Physics right?

The level of cheerleading on this site is very comical at times. If you had told me that the amount of air ingested is far more important than the temperature of air (assuming we aren't talking about a delta of 100 degree celsius), I can accept that. Or if you said that the intercooler normalizes the source of intake, I can also accept that. But under load, there is no way a car with forced induction ingests cooler air than the same car without FI.

Mike, you are familiar with Buttonwillow. So claiming a 2:01 is a fast lap while insinuating that it's due to the supercharger strikes me as being a bit disingenuous. I know a few stock (200whp) S2000 with coilovers, tires and pads lap the 13CW in 1:58. I give ALL the credit to the driver, whomever drove that 2:01 lap put in a great lap. I would be curious if the same high level of driving in a stock power car can come close.

- budi

feldy · 10-17-2013, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

IAT is lower than stock

Mike I'm really looking forward to seeing you beat on this car.

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10-16-2013, 09:45 PM	#43
loogs Banned Join Date: May 2013 Drives: on cruise control Location: Long Island Posts: 618 Thanks: 234 Thanked 145 Times in 109 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i think it looks awesome. im all over this

10-16-2013, 10:01 PM	#44
thill Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2020 SS1LE (previous 13 BRZ owner) Location: North Pole Posts: 2,753 Thanks: 328 Thanked 1,463 Times in 802 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is very interesting to say the least. The amount of testing without additional mods is what has my interest. I am not going to heavily track my car, and the numbers on this mod like perfect for me. I was not looking to dump a ton of money in additional mods outside of better tires. Couple questions. I know this has been tested in Colorado in the Winter, but any concerns with -30F degree temperatures like we have here in MN? I would expect not, but I am not sure I want to be a test mule either.. Also, do they have tunes for 85 and 93 grade gas? I can get either pretty easy near me.

10-16-2013, 10:46 PM	#45
djliquidsteele Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: Scion FR-S Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 498 Thanks: 62 Thanked 130 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	All I want to know is how much HP max and is the C38 compatible with the system and our car.

10-16-2013, 11:15 PM	#46
dgtlmn Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Asphalt A/T Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just since I don't really know...what's the difference about a system like this built for manual vs automatic? Is it all in the tune applied? I'm guessing it's all based on the gearing differences between the two, but really don't know for sure. If this system was made for an auto, wouldn't it be all the same 'hardware' and just different 'software'?

10-17-2013, 12:14 AM	#48
Ricochet48 Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: RSX-S Location: United States Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm also in interested what this kit will do with I/H/E and a shorter pulley. 275 seems reachable? I hope that JR would provide some sort of upgrade route. For instance, if you bought their tune then they released a stage II with a shorter pulley designed with bolt on's, that you'd be able to get the tune at a discount. Only time will tell. I wish the car would have came closer like this from the factory, but the aftermarket is really holding up quite well!

10-17-2013, 02:38 AM	#49
OrbitalEllipses Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Attitude Location: MD Posts: 10,046 Thanks: 884 Thanked 4,890 Times in 2,903 Posts Mentioned: 123 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	The hot air intake still bothers me.

10-17-2013, 11:30 AM	#53
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