Auto to Manual conversion

[Turbowned]

That is both awesome and terrible at the same time! It's like getting married to a supermodel after she became an amputee. (sorry AT drivers, I'm just expressing my opinion)

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

My old DSG GTI shifted faster. I think you mean that you won't find a faster shifting torque converter automatic.

This automatic downshifts so much better then the DSG in the GTI.

Both are the best auto transmission under $60K, period.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by dem00n

This automatic downshifts so much better then the DSG in the GTI.

Both are the best auto transmission under $60K, period.

I've owned both, and I disagree. I still love my auto BRZ, but it did not upshift or downshift as smooth or quickly as my '11 DSG GTI.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

I've owned both, and I disagree. I still love my auto BRZ, but it did not upshift or downshift as smooth or quickly as my '11 DSG GTI.

I owned one and rented the other.

I just find it to downshift better, gotta be the rev matching. It is faster, but of course you have all that shared tech from Audi and Porsche in that transmission...

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by dem00n

I owned one and rented the other.

I just find it to downshift better, gotta be the rev matching. It is faster, but of course you have all that shared tech from Audi and Porsche in that transmission...

It's close don't get me wrong, but the DSG can go from 5th/6th to 3rd/4th faster than you could even making a single manual downshift. There is literally no lag at all. The other thing to consider is that there's no drivetrain loss in the DSG (the very reason the DSG is faster than the manual GTI in 1/4 mile times).

Now reliability is another story. I feel much more confident blipping up and down all day long in the BRZ. The DSG GTI gave me an uneasy feeling, like I was going to blow the tranny if I pushed it extremely hard.

[BlueDubbinTDI]

The DSG is way more advanced technology that this auto, I also own 1 and can testify to it. While it has less immediate response to throttle input than this car it is way more efficient when it comes to actually shifting. Were talking seamless shifts 3->6 gears. Very very impressive stuff. However, it does require very expensive maintenance every 40k miles. Annoying but true.

[mush]

Originally Posted by dem00n

This automatic downshifts so much better then the DSG in the GTI.

Both are the best auto transmission under $60K, period.

theres brand new cars that can be had for under 60k with duel clutch

[ApolloSki]

Originally Posted by mush

theres brand new cars that can be had for under 60k with duel clutch

Like an Audi S4.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by mush

theres brand new cars that can be had for under 60k with duel clutch

True, but not all dual clutches are good.

Does $50K make you more happy?

[sprintertrueno86]

Tell your parents u wanted a manual...and change it to a Limited BRZ while you're at it.

[R2RO]

Originally Posted by thill

Then keep it as an auto and buy a manual later.

If it is possible, and it should be, my guess is that we are looking at $3-4K or so to do the conversion, give or take depending on labor.

$3-4k would be a godsend for a Auto- Manual Conversion, the manual transmission itself for the FR-S is $3k Brand new or $2-3k used. Factor in all of the different parts like (E.g. ECU, Transmission, Steering wheel, Gauge Cluster, Pedal Assembly, Master Clutch cylinder, Clutch+Flywheel, Diff, Driveshaft, Plastic Trims, and Wiring. You'll be looking at a figure close to $10-12K, how do i know this because i wanted to do a Auto-Manual conversion haha

I'd say trade it in for a manual 10-series, you'll lose give or take 2-3k depending on condition and Mileage. Or if you're paying it off i think that would make it easier less of a loss.

[BANGER]

Don't do it. I was in your exact (okay similar) shoes when I got my Civic. I wasn't into cars when I was car shopping with my parents for a college car, but in case I did, I decided to get a Civic since the community is huge for it and it will keep my busy. Long story short, I found that I did get into it and felt that I could have gotten an SI. The car's not under my name, I'm not making the payments, the work/cost would be huge, it'll never feel the same way as a manual straight from the factory, and it'll OBLITERATE the resale value.

Just stick with it and be glad you got it for free. Use it as a motivator to get your first real car (like I am now for an FRS) with your hard earned first-real-job money.
Not only that, but later on post-college there might be something better, and you'll end up regretting all the work you did. Instead, you should keep the AT 10 Series as the daily driver, and that new car as the fun car. It's win-win all around.

Hell you're stuck with something that has a generally considered fun auto-sport mode. I'm stuck on a stinking Civic AT. This is a POINT A TO POINT B car. It's hardly sporty. It's an appliance to most people. I lost out on not only the transmission but the engine (I still wonder what a K20Z3 feels like; arguably one of Honda's best engines), the suspension, and LSD.
Appreciate what you got man. I know that lingering feel/regret will stay for awhile, but give it some time and you'll get over it.

It took me about 2 years though, lol.
If you REALLY had to, trading it in is the only sensible choice. Hell, maybe you can trade it with some other 10 series who wants to switch to auto (yes that happens but obviously not as often). But if that's out of question, just live with it. You're still young.

[SigmaHyperion]

Originally Posted by ApolloSki

Like an Audi S4.

Or a Ford Focus. Or a Ford Fiesta even.

DCTs are rapidly trickling down to even econoboxes now because they're a fair bit more fuel-efficient than standard Automatics.

I'm sure that Subaru would have gone with one as well considering how it otherwise was fairly focused on MPG. But, off the top of my head, I can't think of any DCT that Aisin has in its stable. They almost all come from European suppliers.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by SigmaHyperion

Or a Ford Focus. Or a Ford Fiesta even.

DCTs are rapidly trickling down to even econoboxes now because they're a fair bit more fuel-efficient than standard Automatics.

I'm sure that Subaru would have gone with one as well considering how it otherwise was fairly focused on MPG. But, off the top of my head, I can't think of any DCT that Aisin has in its stable. They almost all come from European suppliers.

The Focus and Firsta "power shift" DCT is not even comparable to the VW DSG. Reliability issues have plagued it, and up/down shifts are annoyingly slow.

I would rather the slush box in the twins any day over Ford's DCT.