Auto to Manual conversion - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

MK42Dragon · 09-14-2013, 08:52 PM

Ok so, the story goes like this,
when I turned 18 my parents got me a Scion FR-S from the 10-series.
I love the car and it was the one I wanted, but there was one problem. My parents got me the 6-speed shiftable automatic. First things first im not trying to be a spoiled little rich kid, my parents got me it because they figured with all the money they saved from college because of all the college courses Im taking now that they would give me that money back for my efforts.
I was thinking of converting it into an manual, not now, but some time in the later future.
Here is the overall question, should I do it? If so what parts would I need and around how much would it cost?

thill · 09-14-2013, 08:54 PM

It would probably be cheaper to trade it in on a manual.

dem00n · 09-14-2013, 08:54 PM

Sell the car and buy a manual. It'll cost more to do a conversion.

I'm assuming you know how to drive a manual? The ratios are stupid similar between the auto and manual, you're really aiming for a clutch if you want the differences.

Personally, i'd leave it as is. Learning how to drive this automatic properly as a manual (Alright, so you can't clutch drop or hell and toe) i find it to be just as rewarding. Oh look traffic, and i just put it into drive. I'm also a sucker for paddles.

Have you really driven the auto hard? If you aren't putting it in sport/VSC sport mode then you aren't having fun.

MK42Dragon · 09-14-2013, 08:56 PM

Its my first car, so selling it is out of the question.
short of a meteorite crushing it beyond repair, im keeping it.

thill · 09-14-2013, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MK42Dragon

Its my first car, so selling it is out of the question.
short of a meteorite crushing it beyond repair, im keeping it.

Then keep it as an auto and buy a manual later.

If it is possible, and it should be, my guess is that we are looking at $3-4K or so to do the conversion, give or take depending on labor.

ApolloSki · 09-14-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dem00n

Sell the car and buy a manual. It'll cost more to do a conversion.

I'm assuming you know how to drive a manual? The rations are stupid similar between the auto and manual, you're really aiming for a clutch if you want the differences.

Personally, i'd leave it as is. Learning how to drive this automatic properly as a manual (Alright, so you can't clutch drop or hell and toe) i find it to be just as rewarding. Oh look traffic, and i just put it into drive. I'm also a sucker for paddles.

Have you really driven the auto hard? If you aren't putting it in sport/VSC sport mode then you aren't having fun.

I agree, unless you really want that clutch, its just as fun.

dem00n · 09-14-2013, 09:04 PM

Proper driving of the auto.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gBM3RCzU3I"]Scion FR-S Automatic Paddle Shift speed - YouTube[/ame]

forzajuve · 09-14-2013, 09:04 PM

Go to college twice and then get a manual the second time around.

Shagaliscious · 09-14-2013, 09:35 PM

You're in luck. There's one on ebay, and it happens to be located in Florida.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-SCION-F...84e538&vxp=mtr

finch1750 · 09-14-2013, 09:43 PM

It will be expensive, even more so if you dont do the work yourself. This car has a very good automatic. If you really want a manual get an older car, like a ae86 =)

Hindi · 09-14-2013, 10:20 PM

If it makes you feel better, you won't find a faster shifting transmission for less than 60k. I'm sure you've already read its a modified isf trans. I'd say just leave it be and have driving the car.

Burrcold · 09-14-2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hindi

If it makes you feel better, you won't find a faster shifting transmission for less than 60k. I'm sure you've already read its a modified isf trans. I'd say just leave it be and have driving the car.

My old DSG GTI shifted faster. I think you mean that you won't find a faster shifting torque converter automatic.

Hindi · 09-14-2013, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

My old DSG GTI shifted faster. I think you mean that you won't find a faster shifting torque converter automatic.

Whatever helps the op love his car.

BlueDubbinTDI · 09-14-2013, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dem00n

Sell the car and buy a manual. It'll cost more to do a conversion.

I'm assuming you know how to drive a manual? The ratios are stupid similar between the auto and manual, you're really aiming for a clutch if you want the differences.

Personally, i'd leave it as is. Learning how to drive this automatic properly as a manual (Alright, so you can't clutch drop or hell and toe) i find it to be just as rewarding. Oh look traffic, and i just put it into drive. I'm also a sucker for paddles.

Have you really driven the auto hard? If you aren't putting it in sport/VSC sport mode then you aren't having fun.

100% this. I obliterate my mpg when I drive it manually but damn is it more entertaining. I give it a good balance. With MT you're stuck in manual mode all the time... Just a thought

View Poll Results: Conversion or no conversion
change it into a manual FR-S	28	17.50%
leave it as is	132	82.50%
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09-14-2013, 08:54 PM	#3
dem00n Member of the year - 2016 Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: New York Posts: 3,575 Thanks: 788 Thanked 2,427 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sell the car and buy a manual. It'll cost more to do a conversion. I'm assuming you know how to drive a manual? The ratios are stupid similar between the auto and manual, you're really aiming for a clutch if you want the differences. Personally, i'd leave it as is. Learning how to drive this automatic properly as a manual (Alright, so you can't clutch drop or hell and toe) i find it to be just as rewarding. Oh look traffic, and i just put it into drive. I'm also a sucker for paddles. Have you really driven the auto hard? If you aren't putting it in sport/VSC sport mode then you aren't having fun. __________________ Friends don't let friends Plastidip Last edited by dem00n; 09-14-2013 at 09:06 PM.

09-14-2013, 09:04 PM	#7
dem00n Member of the year - 2016 Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: New York Posts: 3,575 Thanks: 788 Thanked 2,427 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Proper driving of the auto. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gBM3RCzU3I"]Scion FR-S Automatic Paddle Shift speed - YouTube[/ame] __________________ Friends don't let friends Plastidip

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finch1750 Undisputed El Presidente Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Zenki 37J ZN6 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 11,593 Thanks: 9,403 Thanked 9,411 Times in 5,270 Posts Mentioned: 374 Post(s) Tagged: 33 Thread(s)	It will be expensive, even more so if you dont do the work yourself. This car has a very good automatic. If you really want a manual get an older car, like a ae86 =) __________________ "Just like how a strut bar somehow enables you to corner 20MPH faster around a cloverleaf on-ramp, when the reality is, you can do it already but you just don't have to balls to do it." - CSG David

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Hindi Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: Frs Location: Montgomery Posts: 321 Thanks: 98 Thanked 103 Times in 66 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If it makes you feel better, you won't find a faster shifting transmission for less than 60k. I'm sure you've already read its a modified isf trans. I'd say just leave it be and have driving the car. __________________ -Robert

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thill Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2020 SS1LE (previous 13 BRZ owner) Location: North Pole Posts: 2,753 Thanks: 328 Thanked 1,463 Times in 802 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It would probably be cheaper to trade it in on a manual.

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forzajuve Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Ultramarine 86 - 6MT Location: California Posts: 533 Thanks: 184 Thanked 139 Times in 82 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Go to college twice and then get a manual the second time around.

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