What's your ethnicity and region?

[cyde01]

Originally Posted by Giccin

I get a lot of racism when I leave the OC.

i actually don't, lol. lived in oklahoma for four years and met lots of people from the midwest, south, east coast and for the most part they were very pleasant and friendly. i was shocked to find that the whole southern hospitality was extended to me as well, in spite of my yellow skin. my bad experiences were mostly just high school.

Originally Posted by Homemade WRX

I don't see the a-bomb comments as racist things (unless there is part of the discussion left off) but it was a HORRIBLE means to a war. Can you imagine how many more lives would have been lost if the full US force invaded Japan?

that's what they all say, more people would have died. regardless, it is an atrocity. hiroshima was a purely civilian target. 200,000 people died a horrible, painful death and a lot of them were women and children. nagasaki was the same with another 70,000. it was considered a war crime even then but back in those days both sides committed war crimes without thinking twice about it. today you accidently bomb 1 civilian and you have to internationally apologize for it. food for thought.

[Camouflage]

Originally Posted by Homemade WRX

Can you imagine how many more lives would have been lost if the full US force invaded Japan?

There are different Opinions whether or not the use of nuclear Weopens was necessary. However, the Bombs were used on mainly civilian targets. Thats the main Problem in my opinion. A military Target would have been sufficient to demonstrate the Power. And force Japan to surrender.

But i´m judging this by todays Standards. Back then both Sides commited terrible war crimes which should not be forgotten, otherwise terrible Things like that might happen again.

Just my opinion

[Guff]

Originally Posted by cyde01

that's what they all say, more people would have died. regardless, it is an atrocity. hiroshima was a purely civilian target. 200,000 people died a horrible, painful death and a lot of them were women and children. nagasaki was the same with another 70,000. it was considered a war crime even then but back in those days both sides committed war crimes without thinking twice about it. today you accidently bomb 1 civilian and you have to internationally apologize for it. food for thought.

I don't know about that....


But the general point still stands.

[Snoopyalien24]

Well I was born here, parents are Cuban - Hell yeah we make awesome cuban coffee, sandwiches, and lechon asado (google that)

Great reat Grandparents were Spanish and Also mixed American or Indian. idk that was the 1800s.

First, generation American from our huge family (grandma had 14 bro's nd sis's) and all migrated due to communism in the 80s

[kanundrum]

Indian from India but born here.

[old greg]

Originally Posted by cyde01

that's what they all say, more people would have died. regardless, it is an atrocity. hiroshima was a purely civilian target. 200,000 people died a horrible, painful death and a lot of them were women and children. nagasaki was the same with another 70,000.

150,000 civilians died in the invasion of Okinawa out of a population of ~500,000. That's 30%, much of which was mass suicide and infanticide encouraged/caused by Japanese Army propaganda that the American barbarians were going to rape and murder all the women and children. The same percentage applied to the overall population of Japan would mean 22,000,000 civilians dead. Then there's the fact that Japanese civilians were being conscripted into "volunteer" militias to defend against invasion with 28,000,000 "combat capable" men and women. Of course, Japan couldn't produce that many guns, so most were armed with bamboo spears.

So yeah, more people would have died, a lot more.

[cyde01]

regardless, it is an atrocity. the ends never justify the means. they could have nuked baghdad and possibly less civilians would have died in the iraq war compared to what actually happened but that wouldn't make it right.

[Guff]

Originally Posted by kanundrum

Indian from India but born here.

Good! We need more brown!

Now it's me, you, and Dalli in the brown crew. Don't embarrass us haha.

[Homemade WRX]

Originally Posted by cyde01

they could have nuked baghdad and possibly less civilians would have died in the iraq war compared to what actually happened but that wouldn't make it right.

but that wouldn't have stopped this war....but now that we are WAAAAAAY off topic

[MisterSheep]

I am mostly Italian and Portuguese.. with a small amount of Salvadorian and was born in Northern California.

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[MisterSheep]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

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[thecarfilmer]

i am vietnam. born and raised here in northern california

[MisterSheep]

Originally Posted by thecarfilmer

i am Vietnamese. born and raised here in northern california

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