[GTA Autoslalom] PITL Series Event #7 - Sunday September 8, 2013 (Brampton, ON)

[Ash_frs]

and I wasn't 19 I was 91.. thank you for tall the support and compliments for a 'noob' I think I did okay. I wish someone had some pics of my frs sliding or an action shot of some kind. hope to see you all out next time. on the 29th! in the mean time any meets going on on the west side of the city?

[that_guy]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

yeah, that's been my dilema

do i stay with 225's on OEM sized rims and take a shot at next years's C-Stock/RTR whatever those classes will be finalized at

or go balls out on the wheel/tires and do PITL and Time Attack

cuz STX would require a whole other level of prep to be competetive.

STX doesn't require a lot of prep, just knowing which parts help and which hinder. I run STX in my FR-S and have had two 1st, one 2nd, and one 3rd finish this year in class. Driver will help though.

The PITL event was good fun. I'm burn to a crisp though. I was the last co-driver on the white FR-S with the orange graphics on it. We ran Conti ExtremeContact DR's (full slick) which we knew would be a problem from the get go. They never got heat in them and were shuffling up front under the narrow wheel. If I'd had my car we would have broken into the 59's and probably the 58's sooner in the day. Best we managed was a 60.046 in the last run with a couple of mistakes here and there.

Solid driving by all the FR-S guys. @UMB FR-S, nice driving! Tires on this car make the world of difference. Brakes too...

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by that_guy

STX doesn't require a lot of prep,

Our STX classes and prep is lagging behind those of the states.

STX means:

headers
bushing upgrades all around
springs , ie coilovers
engine management







this could easily be a 4-6k worth of upgrades and shop time for dial in



it's quite a bit more prep than stock

[that_guy]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

Our STX classes and prep is lagging behind those of the states.

STX means:

headers
bushing upgrades all around
springs , ie coilovers
engine management







this could easily be a 4-6k worth of upgrades and shop time for dial in



it's quite a bit more prep than stock

Any class with mods will cost you more than stock. That's a given.

Plus, many of those mods are more wants than needs. I only have coilovers, wheels and tires, and a proper alignment and I'm doing just fine in STX with that. CHolm is the same as me and he's not far off the pace in STX either, especially since this is his first real season piloting a car in autox.

Bushings are really more of a want thing as their true value is in the eye of the beholder and the rest are power mods which will really depend on the type of courses you run. Tight, technical courses will never require more power than stock to be competitive.

Building for a class doesn't mean you have to buy everything. It means you have to spend strategically. Is the value of that part going to net you more than another part/mod? If not, then don't bother. For me, headers and bushings are that over valued part in STX. At least in Canada anyways. If you plan to be competitive in the USA, you'll need a much bigger budget.

[7thgear]

dude..

first you say:

STX doesn't require a lot of prep

then you say:

Any class with mods will cost you more than stock. That's a given.

[automatic]

Originally Posted by Ash_frs

and I wasn't 19 I was 91.. thank you for tall the support and compliments for a 'noob' I think I did okay. I wish someone had some pics of my frs sliding or an action shot of some kind. hope to see you all out next time. on the 29th! in the mean time any meets going on on the west side of the city?

63 seconds is VERY good for a noob, especially on stock tires. I believe good tires will give you about 2 seconds.

I managed a 60.3x and I'm on "cheater" tires (225 Rivals), the rest of my car is stock. Steve, my codriver got a 60.0x. On my 3rd year of autocross, but first year in the BRZ...Steve has been doing it for a lot longer than I have. Just so you have something to compare your times against...

I found that learning how to drive on crappy tires makes you drive much better when you switch to good tires.

[Ash_frs]

Cant put a car to a screen name. Who had the white frs with orange decals? On racekor tires? And for a first timer autox and in my frs im happy with my 63.752. I finished 61st overall. Not too shabby

[colHolm]

Originally Posted by Ash_frs

Cant put a car to a screen name. Who had the white frs with orange decals? On racekor tires? And for a first timer autox and in my frs im happy with my 63.752. I finished 61st overall. Not too shabby

That was @l8apexr

[colHolm]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

dude..

first you say:

STX doesn't require a lot of prep

then you say:

Any class with mods will cost you more than stock. That's a given.

I think maybe he meant STX requires some prep, but a decent suspension, alignment and tires gets you most of the way there. He would also be speaking to his experiences running at TLMC, so you're right - both of us would be underprepared for STX south of the border where there is much more competition.
:happy0180:

[UMB FR-S]

well here is a video of my fastest lap hope everyone enjoys!

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkukvyq1eZg"]AUTOCROSS - YouTube[/ame]

[7thgear]

very nice driving

[colHolm]

Definitely nice driving. I found myself braking too much at the end of the slalom and cross straight, which held me at 61.3.

Well done!

[that_guy]

Originally Posted by colHolm

I think maybe he meant STX requires some prep, but a decent suspension, alignment and tires gets you most of the way there. He would also be speaking to his experiences running at TLMC, so you're right - both of us would be underprepared for STX south of the border where there is much more competition.
:happy0180:

You got it. I assumed that when we started talking about a class other than stock, it was assumed you have to pay to play. STX, by comparison, is a relatively inexpensive class to compete in versus some other options.

Note that coilovers and massive wheels/tires are not really needed to be uber competitive. You can play with the big boys with just a basic alignment setup and some sticky tires. Both can be had for under $1000.

[7thgear]

photo taken at the end of the event on Sunday (not by me)