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Old 08-26-2013, 02:58 PM   #85
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Lol referring to me I assume? Have you Owned all three of those companies suspensions? Or even driven on all three with multiple chasis? I have, so I wouldn't judge something when you dont know the context of the question. Those coils are in order are my selection of high mid and low levels ranges. My Tein mono flexes are fantastic. I have also drive various cars on different stance suspension setups as I am friends with the founders and owners of the company. I also have various experience with ohlins. Obviously each tier will function differently and are priced accordingly. Troller

You're a joke dude. seriously?

can you read?

do you know what tiers are?

People don't cross shop Ohlins and Stance, sorry, go tell your "friends" that their suspension isn't Ohlins quality, they will either laugh and proclaim "duh" or cry, and i don't care which
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Lol referring to me I assume? Have you Owned all three of those companies suspensions? Or even driven on all three with multiple chasis? I have, so I wouldn't judge something when you dont know the context of the question. Those coils are in order are my selection of high mid and low levels ranges. My Tein mono flexes are fantastic. I have also drive various cars on different stance suspension setups as I am friends with the founders and owners of the company. I also have various experience with ohlins. Obviously each tier will function differently and are priced accordingly. Troller
If you got the mad hookups on the Stance, why even bother shopping around?
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You're a joke dude. seriously?

can you read?

do you know what tiers are?

People don't cross shop Ohlins and Stance, sorry, go tell your "friends" that their suspension isn't Ohlins quality, they will either laugh and proclaim "duh" or cry, and i don't care which

You are an idiot and again did not read anything ive typed. Your inability to comprehend and think analitically is not suprizing as this is a car forum for a car costing a maximum of 30k. Those are my choices of coils I would buy from either cheap, expensive, or ludachris tiers. I could afford anything I want but those are my choices depending on IF and HOW I want to alocate money on on suspension. Fucking read what I have typed. I never said stance was in the same league. Nothing iIhave possbly typed out would entail that. I placed stance in the top of my cheaper coilover choice, monoflex as my expensive choice, and ohlins as my ludachris choice.

Also as I've said before I've driven with all companies suspension on all multiple platforms. I'm sure I have more experience in this sort of thing and I certainly understand a good dampened coil and spring combination better than your average bear. Again you are a troll, but worse than that your an illiterate blindly hateful troll. In addition, for you to insult a company over your misunderstanding and lacking comprehension just makes you look like a classless asshole. I'd be surprised if you ever even held a set of ohlin shocks in your hands. But cool story bro. You pointed out that stance is not as good as ohlins. You won an argument no one was having with you. To see the person on the other end of the keyboard would be very entertaining.

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If you got the mad hookups on the Stance, why even bother shopping around?
Because I can shop around. I could just have something made to my liking though my people. Idk if I want to settle with really good for the money or spend a ton and have something better. Tein monoflex would more then likely be better than stance off the shelf, but would cost me more then double..... How much better is neglable because stance is relatively very good for its price point and I have experience with both mono and the stance equivelant. So rather than spend double on neglably better suspension, I could spend 3.5 times to get the best I could for street/ mild track use (ohlins).... But why.. To be .5-1 second faster around the track? I don't ever push my car 10/10's. I guess you asking your question helped me make a decision. Haha thanks.
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You are an idiot and again did not read anything ive typed. Your inability to comprehend and think analitically is not suprizing as this is a car forum for a car costing a maximum of 30k. Those are my choices of coils I would buy from either cheap, expensive, or ludachris tiers. I could afford anything I want but those are my choices depending on IF and HOW I want to alocate money on on suspension. Fucking read what I have typed. I never said stance was in the same league. Nothing iIhave possbly typed out would entail that. I placed stance in the top of my cheaper coilover choice, monoflex as my expensive choice, and ohlins as my ludachris choice.

Also as I've said before I've driven with all companies suspension on all multiple platforms. I'm sure I have more experience in this sort of thing and I certainly understand a good dampened coil and spring combination better than your average bear. Again you are a troll, but worse than that your an illiterate blindly hateful troll. In addition, for you to insult a company over your misunderstanding and lacking comprehension just makes you look like a classless asshole. I'd be surprised if you ever even held a set of ohlin shocks in your hands. But cool story bro. You pointed out that stance is not as good as ohlins. You won an argument no one was having with you. To see the person on the other end of the keyboard would be very entertaining.



Because I can shop around. I could just have something made to my liking though my people. Idk if I want to settle with really good for the money or spend a ton and have something better. Tein monoflex would more then likely be better than stance off the shelf, but would cost me more then double..... How much better is neglable because stance is relatively very good for its price point and I have experience with both mono and the stance equivelant. So rather than spend double on neglably better suspension, I could spend 3.5 times to get the best I could for street/ mild track use (ohlins).... But why.. To be .5-1 second faster around the track? I don't ever push my car 10/10's. I guess you asking your question helped me make a decision. Haha thanks.
If a set of 1 way ohlins is ludicrous to you, you really haven't experienced much in the suspension world. You're welcome to come by and take a ride in some properly equipped cars. Alternatively, I can arrange rides for you. Just don't waste the time of the people who are willing to do this for you.

If suspension only lets you 0.5-1 seconds around a track, it's a driver or setup issue.
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I have no scientific proof but I'm sure between a quality suspension setup and a more advanced suspension there would not be more than a second or so of lap speed difference if all factors remain constant. Which untimately I dont need something so advanced. You made me really think about why I don't need ohlins beyond the happy feelings it would give me inside.

Thank you for the offer but I'm sure here in Chicago I could find a person with some ohlins to try for a ride. I do live next to gt motorin and have know Greg for a little bit now. You run Tein super race dampers and I'm sure you get what I'm trying to say. I doubt if you switched from what you have now to these ohlins that you wouldnt see much faster or a huge significence in lap times everything remaining consistent.

Anyway I appreciate you insight on this forum. I enjoy reading your posts. I bet it drives you crazy when people start bashing Tein suspension lol.

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I have no scientific proof but I'm sure between a quality suspension setup and a more advanced suspension there would not be more than a second or so of lap speed difference if all factors remain constant.

You read it here first folks take note.

I bow to your superior knowledge TouchMy*****

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Seems this thread has been dead for a while....

Anyway, after getting good feedback from some intelligent people (both from this board and the track), it appears we have maxed out these Ohlins using Kumho slicks.

I've looked at KW's website for stiffer springs but am looking for other alternatives.

This is still a daily driver for the owner so the springs will be a pre-race swap. Road comfort does not need to be taken into account.

Car is about 150Kg lighter then OEM. Are there any spring recommendations from the track guru's out there?

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We ran 450 lbs/in (about 8 kg/mm) front and rear Hyperco springs on our Ohlins. Car was excellent. No revalve needed. You could go to 9 kg/mm easily.

Hyperco, Swift, Eibach, all make quality coilover springs that will work well. KW springs are a narrower ID, you want 2.5 inch for the Ohlins I believe.

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I have no scientific proof but I'm sure between a quality suspension setup and a more advanced suspension there would not be more than a second or so of lap speed difference if all factors remain constant. Which untimately I dont need something so advanced. You made me really think about why I don't need ohlins beyond the happy feelings it would give me inside.

Thank you for the offer but I'm sure here in Chicago I could find a person with some ohlins to try for a ride. I do live next to gt motorin and have know Greg for a little bit now. You run Tein super race dampers and I'm sure you get what I'm trying to say. I doubt if you switched from what you have now to these ohlins that you wouldnt see much faster or a huge significence in lap times everything remaining consistent.

Anyway I appreciate you insight on this forum. I enjoy reading your posts. I bet it drives you crazy when people start bashing Tein suspension lol.
I'm in the Schaumburg area as well, if you'd want a ride in my car with KW Clubsports. They'll be similar to the Ohlins.
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I'm in the Schaumburg area as well, if you'd want a ride in my car with KW Clubsports. They'll be similar to the Ohlins.
I do appreciate that and I would take you up on your offer, so I hope we bump into eachther at a meet. I am assuming this is Joel?

I went with some "custom" tweaked stance with swift upgrades. Felt amazing at Autobahn this weekend in Joliet.
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I do appreciate that and I would take you up on your offer, so I hope we bump into eachther at a meet. I am assuming this is Joel?

I went with some "custom" tweaked stance with swift upgrades. Felt amazing at Autobahn this weekend in Joliet.
That's me. I'm sure we'll run into each other at some point in the near future, haha. May 4th, first autocross of the season!

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We found with the Impreza chassis not to lower the car too much and its not an issue. They suggest ( I agree) that the 15mm lowering works well. I'll see how things work at that before going to 20mm.

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Any update whether should we be cutting the dust boots according to the instructions or leave them as it is ?

As the piston will be expose around 30mm once we cut it, means the dust boot won't be any help ?

Can we run the front and rear dust boot without cutting ?




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Just receive my Ohlins today

Any update whether should we be cutting the dust boots according to the instructions or leave them as it is ?

As the piston will be expose around 30mm once we cut it, means the dust boot won't be any help ?

Can we run the front and rear dust boot without cutting ?



Pistons are never exposed. Also you have to remember that with the weight of the car on the suspension, under static sag, the shaft will be retracted into the shock body. Although at full droop that portion of the shaft will indeed become exposed if you cut it(like when you take it off sweet jumps and stuff).

Edit: it looks like the boots just slips over the ends of the shock bodies.

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