FR-S/BRZ MPG

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by slizoth

Haha, in response to Scotty, very low ground clearence would be one reason. It doesnt get much worse in terms of tire setup than RWD (but that doesnt stop it from being fun). Lastly, I live in Oregon and it snows like 2 weeks out of the year and NO ONE knows how to drive in it, I'd like to keep my cars dent free.

Dunkin, lols, sadly I do feel that 2 door vehicles are really inconsiderate for passengers and friends. Forcing them in and out of the back, also having driven a two door with all the seats full, it was pretty unpleasant for all parties involved. Of course, sports cars and other two seaters are the epitome of selfish spending and driving.

That being said, I love a car that responds well, after motorcycling everywhere I really like feeling "agile" on the road.

tell your friends to get cars... simple and easy...

[Tbxgz]

anyone else noticed when you google search BRZ MPG you get a link to the official Subaru BRZ website. Under the link description the first line reads "27 MPG city ..."

When you go into the site that information is nowhere to be found... Unless you do a manual search (CTRL F pr CMD F for macs). In chrome, I searched for 27 mpg and found 1 result thats hidden in the page somewhere that I could not find.

Anyone else notice this?

[keiri]

Originally Posted by Tbxgz

anyone else noticed when you google search BRZ MPG you get a link to the official Subaru BRZ website. Under the link description the first line reads "27 MPG city ..."

When you go into the site that information is nowhere to be found... Unless you do a manual search (CTRL F pr CMD F for macs). In chrome, I searched for 27 mpg and found 1 result thats hidden in the page somewhere that I could not find.

Anyone else notice this?

That's for the Impreza 2.5i. See source code:

<div class="v_cols v_col_one"> <h3>Impreza</h3> <p>Plenty of smart and fun options that will make you fall in love with your car.</p> <div id="img_IMP" class="v_image"></div> <p class="image_subtext">Impreza 2.5i shown</p> </div><!-- .v_col_one --> <div class="v_cols v_col_two"> <div class="v_mpg"> <div class="mpg_one"> <span class="sub_text">Up to</span> <span class="mpg_hwy">36</span> </div><!-- .mpg_one --> <div class="mpg_two"> <span>MPG^ highway</span> <p><span class="mpg_city">27</span> MPG city</p> </div><!-- .mpg_two --> <div class="clear"></div> </div><!-- .mpg -->

[Tbxgz]

ahh thanks keiri, I also see now its pulling from the nav as well. bubble. burst.

[devinclfalcons]

I assume mpg specs will be released when the pricing is announced?

[serialk11r]

Well if you check one of the million other mpg threads, it seems like this will probably be like somewhere around 30 EPA combined, and I calculated something like a 40-45mpg cruise based on gearing and aero.

[devinclfalcons]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Well if you check one of the million other mpg threads, it seems like this will probably be like somewhere around 30 EPA combined, and I calculated something like a 40-45mpg cruise based on gearing and aero.

Wonder if the gearing will be different on the auto vs the manual? The reviews stated that Subaru expected around 30 mpg highway. I hope it is more like 30 mpg combined.

[ryude]

Originally Posted by devinclfalcons

Wonder if the gearing will be different on the auto vs the manual? The reviews stated that Subaru expected around 30 mpg highway. I hope it is more like 30 mpg combined.

Toyota has always underrated their mpg. Look at their yaris, they rate it at 38 mpg but on their forums people get 40-50mpg.

[switchlanez]

So the new FB20 engine in the 2012 Impreza is 2 liters and gets 27 city/36 hwy mpg with CVT and 25 city/33 hwy for the 5MT. But it outputs 150 hp on the 2,900 pound Impreza.

The FR-S/BRZ's FA20 is based on the FB20. Also 2 liters but difference is it's been tuned to 200 hp. The D-4S direct injection is supposed to increase hp and fuel efficiency but I think the engine has to run richer (consume more gas) to achieve the huge +50 hp bump and tuning is skewed more towards power than efficiency. The FR-S/BRZ is 200 lbs. so that helps.

200 lbs. lighter but +50 hp? I think it would have the same or worse efficiency numbers than the 2012 Impreza. Also, CVT makes a difference which our car won't have. And Impreza's 5MT is geared for fuel efficiency; our 6MT should be geared for some mix of performance/fuel efficiency.

[devinclfalcons]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

So the new FB20 engine in the 2012 Impreza is 2 liters and gets 27 city/36 hwy mpg with CVT and 25 city/33 hwy for the 5MT. But it outputs 150 hp on the 2,900 pound Impreza.

The FR-S/BRZ's FA20 is based on the FB20. Also 2 liters but difference is it's been tuned to 200 hp. The D-4S direct injection is supposed to increase hp and fuel efficiency but I think the engine has to run richer (consume more gas) to achieve the huge +50 hp bump and tuning is skewed more towards power than efficiency. The FR-S/BRZ is 200 lbs. so that helps.

200 lbs. lighter but +50 hp? I think it would have the same or worse efficiency numbers than the 2012 Impreza. Also, CVT makes a difference which our car won't have. And Impreza's 5MT is geared for fuel efficiency; our 6MT should be geared for some mix of performance/fuel efficiency.

I wouldn't be surprised if the auto was geared for better fuel economy. I know the manual BRZ's have a sound pipe from the engine to the cabin in order to increase the engine's snarl inside the cabin at high rpm's. So they have already shown that they are trying to make the manual a bit more "sporty".

[daphaze1]

Originally Posted by ryude

Toyota has always underrated their mpg. Look at their yaris, they rate it at 38 mpg but on their forums people get 40-50mpg.

Hmm I don't know know anything about the Yaris, but the other models are overated where I live. I live in Los Angeles though. And unless I drive like a total jerk, I won't get those mpgs on any corolla, IS, cammary, prius, sienna, 4runner, etc.

But they are getting better. So I'm glad... Toyota is still the best in mpg though...

[ACHlLLES]

I only get around 16mpg on my fj. I think the sticker said around 19.

[Reflections]

What, if true!! 27City, 36Hwy, is nothing to laugh about! For a high output (relatively high revving) motor that says a lot! Sure, no magic 40mpg, but considering the Civic Si gets 22city, 32hwy... Winning!

Every hidden detail about this car makes it even better, hopefully the price is a jaw-dropper.

[Dillano609]

Originally Posted by Reflections

What!! 27City, 36Hwy, is nothing to laugh about! For a high output (relatively high revving) motor that says a lot! Sure, no magic 40mpg, but considering the Civic Si gets 22city, 32hwy... Winning!

Every hidden detail about this car makes it even better, hopefully the price is a jaw-dropper.

Jaw droppingly low I hope, lol